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  • Boxing42
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    #51
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
    Tell me about the records James Toney has in the UFC.

    Manny was big in his day. It's crazy how big he is in boxing for a Asian, non-US citizen in the US, but Conor has reached more mainstream appeal and he did it much quicker.

    Conor has bigger PPV numbers fight for fight than anyone except Tyson I believe. Manny, Floyd and even Oscar had to grow into big PPV numbers. Tyson and Conor had big numbers out of the gate.
    Another terrible argument, Toney was washed tf up and let me know how many casuals know toney? the FACTS dont lie manny is a bigger star and thats exactly what we're "debating"

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #52
      Originally posted by Boxing42
      Another terrible argument, Toney was washed tf up and let me know how many casuals know toney? the FACTS dont lie manny is a bigger star and thats exactly what we're "debating"
      You or whoever mentioned boxers killing it in MMA. Well he didn't and he was in MMA for about 2 minutes or whatever.

      The "facts" involve mainstream popularity. It's not just ppv buys any damn way. Manny is more famous in the Philippines, but not in the US. I've seen more mfers with Conor shirts after he got stopped by Floyd then I saw Manny shirts when he was destroying mfers left and right. More mfers talk about Conor now than ever talked about Manny.

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      • BoxHec
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        #53
        Zozos here who have more respect for dana b!tch than for bob arum are BS boxing fans!

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        • Hewito
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          #54
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          I guarantee he won't be. He made a hundred million in his mid 20's in one night. Floyd and Manny wouldn't have stuck around so long if they'd have made that much that soon either.

          Hell I'd argue anyone with a $10m+ bank account should retire. This sport is f#cking dangerous and damages even the best athletes in the sport.
          I dont think you are serious,first we dont know the exact numbers conor did,second pacquiao has sold ppvs when he is the only name,you think mcgregor will sell 4 millions against pauly?..mayand oscar started with bob and he has been in business for like 50 years..You can argue all you want,but if mcgregor would have made his debut against brandon rios you are looking at a very poor buy rate.

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          • Eff Pandas
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            #55
            Originally posted by Hewito
            I dont think you are serious,first we dont know the exact numbers conor did
            I think it's a safe assumption he made $80mill worst case and I have no reason to think he didn't get $100mill+. But mainly I think we can agree he made the fourth biggest boxing purse in the history of boxing and he ain't even a boxer.

            second pacquiao has sold ppvs when he is the only name
            Absolutely no clue what that has to do with anything. Conor is the only name in MMA and fighting no names and doing Manny vs Mosley numbers as the only guy selling the fight. When Manny is the only name idk that he's ever broken 1mill buys.

            you think mcgregor will sell 4 millions against pauly?
            Huh?!?! Are you stoned and posting? Who the f#ck is doing 4mill buys vs f#cking Paulie???

            And like I've said this is more than a PPV equation. Conor has more mfers talking about him. He's got more mfers buying his sh^t. He's got more cats who know f#ck all about MMA watching MMA. It's bigger than the ppv stuff.

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