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  • #71
    Originally posted by methodcal View Post
    Probably cause GGG was supposed to........ according to most boxing expert here.........Ko Canelo! Also GGG showed Canelo way to much respect. If Canelo stands his ground more and slip and shoot more. He'll get the nod this time if GGG doesn't throw caution to the wind. Was a close fight though.
    according to lampley, he was supposed to finish the fight in a few rounds(his exact words), so he had to sell the narrative that Alvarez was getting his azz whipped the whole fight even when GGG wasn't landing anything. Don't believe me, look at the last 10 seconds of the 12th round when GGG is missing right hands and Lampley is screaming, " HARD RIGHT HAND BY GOLOVKIN!! AND ANOTHER ONE!!!" while he's clearly not landing. And Ledderman was giving him rounds for this. This went on for 36 minutes

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    • #72
      Thanks for pointing that out, so 1 organization agrees with you. Whereas the rest of the world probably 95% is on the other side of the coin. Also, I just created this account, because of all the misinformation being provided by a lot of your users. I was hoping for an actual debate, not high school tactics. As I stated earlier I picked Canelo to win, but in my eyes, he disappointed me. I scored it 7-5 for GGG, 6-6 is reasonable but you have to keep in mind the challenger doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. The challenger has to dethrone the champion not the other way around. Please present an actual response, and stop with the childish tactics.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Amazinshooter View Post
        Thanks for pointing that out, so 1 organization agrees with you. Whereas the rest of the world probably 95% is on the other side of the coin. Also, I just created this account, because of all the misinformation being provided by a lot of your users. I was hoping for an actual debate, not high school tactics. As I stated earlier I picked Canelo to win, but in my eyes, he disappointed me. I scored it 7-5 for GGG, 6-6 is reasonable but you have to keep in mind the challenger doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. The challenger has to dethrone the champion not the other way around. Please present an actual response, and stop with the childish tactics.
        I felt Canelo did much better than I expected him to do and Golovkin had the fight in the bag, but allowed Canelo to shoeshine a few late rounds.

        The draw did not surprise me. And immediate rematch would surprise me, especially if Lemieux wins in December.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
          I felt Canelo did much better than I expected him to do and Golovkin had the fight in the bag, but allowed Canelo to shoeshine a few late rounds.

          The draw did not surprise me. And immediate rematch would surprise me, especially if Lemieux wins in December.
          In the rematch, I definitely think Canelo wins, when he did step into the center of the ring he was winning the exchanges. The problem is though, to me when a fighter gets on his bicycle and fights in spurts he is conceding rounds even though he might be landing more of the flashier punches. You shouldn't expect to win by being so inactive. Canelo needs to work on his stamina to win, and if he does he will win.
          Last edited by Amazinshooter; 10-25-2017, 01:42 AM.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Amazinshooter View Post
            Thanks for pointing that out, so 1 organization agrees with you. Whereas the rest of the world probably 95% is on the other side of the coin. Also, I just created this account, because of all the misinformation being provided by a lot of your users. I was hoping for an actual debate, not high school tactics. As I stated earlier I picked Canelo to win, but in my eyes, he disappointed me. I scored it 7-5 for GGG, 6-6 is reasonable but you have to keep in mind the challenger doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. The challenger has to dethrone the champion not the other way around. Please present an actual response, and stop with the childish tactics.
            Your logic is absolutely ****** and there was a thread on here created yesterday to disprove your ancient ideology.

            " The challenger has to dethrone the champion not the other way around". = Bull****

            People with your mentality are what's wrong with Boxing.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by StudentOfDaGame View Post
              Your logic is absolutely ****** and there was a thread on here created yesterday to disprove your ancient ideology.

              " The challenger has to dethrone the champion not the other way around". = Bull****

              People with your mentality are what's wrong with Boxing.
              Hmm, right even so do you think Canelo did enough? I had him winning 5 rounds at best. Also, I did explain why I thought GGG won, I'm a fan of both I try to be objective.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Amazinshooter View Post
                Hmm, right even so do you think Canelo did enough? I had him winning 5 rounds at best. Also, I did explain why I thought GGG won, I'm a fan of both I try to be objective.
                I had Canelo winning decisively on the night. Watched it countless times since and it's virtually impossible for me to give the fight to GG if we score it properly using the criteras.
                GG was displaying ineffective aggression, horrible defence and was second best in the effective punches department.

                Here's what I posted the following day...


                Originally posted by StudentOfDaGame
                I'll probably be the only person signing a petition for Adelaide Byrd not to get fired. I can't criticise her when her scorecard was a few off mine.
                I was the same poster that had Srisaket Sor Rungvisais back to the death after Gonzalez. The same poster that was confused as **** with compubox. I think it's a witch hunt personally. She's a easy scapegoat because she's a.... She.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Kigali View Post
                  Horn did way more than Canelo....as you well know.
                  I'd have to agree with you.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Damn Wicked View Post
                    I'd have to agree with you.
                    and Atlas had him losing wide as well.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by StudentOfDaGame View Post
                      I had Canelo winning decisively on the night. Watched it countless times since and it's virtually impossible for me to give the fight to GG if we score it properly using the criteras.
                      GG was displaying ineffective aggression, horrible defence and was second best in the effective punches department.

                      Here's what I posted the following day...
                      What I wrote earlier today.

                      Ring Generalship is key in boxing, in spurts Canelo was good but at the end of the day, you have to win the whole round, not just the first 30 seconds to 1 minute. Canelo did land the cleaner punches, but that doesn't mean you win the round. Essentially, everyone here is saying that GGG is missing punches. But you can't make that argument, you basically defeat yourself. In total punches, there was a 2.5% differential. 169 landed out of 505, overall Canelo missed 336 punches. Whereas Golovkin was the clear aggressor, 218 landed out of 703 but missed 485 times. Onto the next category power punches Canelo won this category by 4 punches 114/272, Golovkin 110/342 missed 9% less, but you're going to miss more when you're coming forward. Overall I can't believe that I'm even having to write this because this should be common sense. Here is why Golovkin won the match, the Jab made Canelo back up and get on his cycle. 55/233 on jabs 23.6% for Canelo
                      110/342 on jabs for Golovkin 29.9%.

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