Comments Thread For: Demetrius Andrade's Promoter Details Many Options at 160

[rickJen]

You're the one missing the point. Lara doesn't need to make any offers. If Andrade really wants the fight he can simply wait for purse bid. If they don't agree in the 90 day period, purse bid is ordered and Andrade gets his shot.

We've been here before. This literally happened to Spence just last year. Brook's team only made an offer to Spence like a day or two before the purse bid. Spence waited for his shot and got it.

Demetrius ran with his tail between his legs to fight who? Fox?

Fact is, Lara didn't have to make an offer. There was literally no obligation on him to do so until the 90 day period began, but guess who vacated as soon as it began? Yes, your boy Andrade. Stop ignoring the facts bra, I won't let you spread your lies. I'll be the to spread the truth every time you appear on these threads and pretend that people are ducking Andrade.

Nothing about Lara fighting Gausha again.
This guy just doesn't give a fk.
He doesn't really get it.
No wonder Lara always gets away fooling people.
He promises to fight live bodies, then proceed fighting cab drivers.

[Sledgeweather17]

Nothing about Lara fighting Gausha again.
This guy just doesn't give a fk.
He doesn't really get it.
No wonder Lara always gets away fooling people.
He promises to fight live bodies, then proceed fighting cab drivers.

Nobody is dis*****g that Lara has been cherry picking since the Canelo fight, that doesn't make him responsible for Andrade's cowardly actions though.

Lara kept his super belt, Andrade vacated. That is a fact you cannot change, just like you can't change the fact that this is common behaviour for Andrade as he has done it many times to avoid Jermell Charlo and Lara.

The fact remains, Lara isn't the reason the fight isn't happening, it's Andrade. It's always Andrade who pulls out at the last minute. This shieet is on record, you can never erase it.

[rickJen]

Fact is, Lara didn't have to make an offer. There was literally no obligation on him to do so until the 90 day period began, but guess who vacated as soon as it began? Yes, your boy Andrade. Stop ignoring the facts bra, I won't let you spread your lies. I'll be the to spread the truth every time you appear on these threads and pretend that people are ducking Andrade.

This guy's timeline is out of whack.
Lara fought retired Foreman in January 13.
Andrade fought Culcay in March 11.
So what happened between Mar 11 to October???
That's effing more than 90 days!
Don't you at least hold someone responsible for wasting this period from Mar to October?
That's effing 7 months!
You compared the situation with Spence's when it is apples and bananas.
Brook was injured, while Lara fought Foreman unscathed!
Somehow it's okay with you that the Cuban fought another cab driver and Andrade would wait for Lara after the Gausha fight, for how many months?
That's effing ******.

[Sledgeweather17]

This guy's timeline is out of whack.
Lara fought retired Foreman in January 13.
Andrade fought Culcay in March 11.
So what happened between Mar 11 to October???
That's effing more than 90 days!
Don't you at least hold someone responsible for wasting this period from Mar to October?
That's effing 7 months!
You compared the situation with Spence's when it is apples and bananas.
Brook was injured, while Lara fought Foreman unscathed!
Somehow it's okay with you that the Cuban fought another cab driver and Andrade would wait for Lara after the Gausha fight, for how many months?
That's effing ******.

Until the mandatory was due. You don't understand boxing do you?

The belt org has to order the fight before you can start accusing a guy of ducking. Until the belt org orders the negotiations, there is no obligation on the champion to initiate negotiations and he is free to take any other fight he wants. These fights are called voluntary defenses/tune up fights. Every champion is entitled to one until such time the belt org orders the fight.

Andrade knew this, clearly you don't know the rules, but I'm pretty sure there is no way Andrade, who has been a pro for as long as he has, and is a former world champ himself, doesn't know this.

You keep exposing your idiocy and lack of knowledge with every post you make. Contrary to what you may believe, more isn't always better, somehow you've convinced yourself that the more posts you make the better your argument will be, but instead you keep exposing more and more holes in your argument, because clearly, you don't know shieeet about boxing.

The 90 day negotiation period, dumb ass, only begins when it is ordered to begin. There was no order given in the period you're talking about.

You try to make as if this situation is different from Spence, but in doing so you FAIL EPICLY, AGAIN.

Brook took the GGG fight before he was ordered to fight Spence, just like Lara took the Gausha fight before he was ordered to fight Andrade.

The difference, of course, is that Spence was genuine about his desire to fight Brook and waited for due process to take it's course, and Andrade never wanted to fight Lara anyway and vacated as soon as he found out that the WBA was planning to order the fight soon.

Give it up, you'll never win this argument, facts > emotion and delusion.

[rickJen]

Until the mandatory was due. You don't understand boxing do you?

The belt org has to order the fight before you can start accusing a guy of ducking. Until the belt org orders the negotiations, there is no obligation on the champion to initiate negotiations and he is free to take any other fight he wants. These fights are called voluntary defenses/tune up fights. Every champion is entitled to one until such time the belt org orders the fight.

Andrade knew this, clearly you don't know the rules, but I'm pretty sure there is no way Andrade, who has been a pro for as long as he has, and is a former world champ himself, doesn't know this.

You keep exposing your idiocy and lack of knowledge with every post you make. Contrary to what you may believe, more isn't always better, somehow you've convinced yourself that the more posts you make the better your argument will be, but instead you keep exposing more and more holes in your argument, because clearly, you don't know shieeet about boxing.

The 90 day negotiation period, dumb ass, only begins when it is ordered to begin. There was no order given in the period you're talking about.

You try to make as if this situation is different from Spence, but in doing so you FAIL EPICLY, AGAIN.

Brook took the GGG fight before he was ordered to fight Spence, just like Lara took the Gausha fight before he was ordered to fight Andrade.

The difference, of course, is that Spence was genuine about his desire to fight Brook and waited for due process to take it's course, and Andrade never wanted to fight Lara anyway and vacated as soon as he found out that the WBA was planning to order the fight soon.

Give it up, you'll never win this argument, facts > emotion and delusion.

This is what is wrong with boxing.
Even effing fans are okay with seeing fights late.
It's as if they have nine lives.
They're okay with seeing Pac/May, for example, five years late.
Brook vs Spence should have happened right after the Algieri fight.
Look at what fans had, a fight where one fighter had to deal with an orbital bone injury.
Things happen. This idiotic fan is okay with delaying fights.
This idiotic fan is not even angry at the sanctioning bodies.
Somehow it's okay that Lara fights another stiff, then Andrade has to be inactive and waiting for Lara for another nine months. Kills me.
Nobody complains. They accept everything hook, line, and sinker.

[Sledgeweather17]

This is what is wrong with boxing.
Even effing fans are okay with seeing fights late.
It's as if they have nine lives.
They're okay with seeing Pac/May, for example, five years late.
Brook vs Spence should have happened right after the Algieri fight.
Look at what fans had, a fight where one fighter had to deal with an orbital bone injury.
Things happen. This idiotic fan is okay with delaying fights.
This idiotic fan is not even angry at the sanctioning bodies.
Somehow it's okay that Lara fights another stiff, then Andrade has to be inactive and waiting for Lara for another nine months. Kills me.
Nobody complains. They accept everything hook, line, and sinker.

Andrade didn't have to be inactive. If the champ takes a voluntary/tune up, the mandatory can also take one as long as he informs the organisation.

Andrade just fought a stiff in that Foxxy guy, who could have fought a different stiff at 154 instead, and now he and Lara would be locked in negotiations and both would have had their tune up bout.

Instead, he is a fighting a stiff at 160 without even securing a mandatory spot or anything like that. Most likely, he'll have to fight another meaningless elminator before he becomes a mandatory, whereas he would be getting ready for a championship fight for two belts with Lara now.

Only way he wouldn't have gotten his shot would have been if Lara vacated.

You claim that I'm a fan who is okay with waiting for fights, and yet you are okay with Andrade vacated just as he is about to secure a fight with Lara.

Now how long will we have to wait before we see either him or Lara in a meaningful fight? And all because Andrade chickened out of negotiations. You're the one supporting the guy who robbed us of a good fight but somehow you've convinced yourself that fans like me are the ones to blame.

Take a good look in the mirror buddy, you're being a hypocrite.

Andrade could have fought Lara TWICE and Charlo TWICE already, and just kept pulling out every time the fights were about to happen, and you still support him despite him robbing the fans of FOUR good match ups.

Fans like me aren't the problem, fans like YOU are the problem. Andrade will never change as long as he has an army of gullable fools.

Lara is no saint, but he never vacated a title or mandatory spot to avoid a fighter, Andrade has Vacated titles/mandatory positions FOUR times to avoid the same two guys.
Speaking as a former Andrade fan I have to ask, how can you support this crap? Is Andrade your cousin or something?

[rickJen]

Andrade didn't have to be inactive. If the champ takes a voluntary/tune up, the mandatory can also take one as long as he informs the organisation.

Andrade just fought a stiff in that Foxxy guy, who could have fought a different stiff at 154 instead, and now he and Lara would be locked in negotiations and both would have had their tune up bout.

Instead, he is a fighting a stiff at 160 without even securing a mandatory spot or anything like that. Most likely, he'll have to fight another meaningless elminator before he becomes a mandatory, whereas he would be getting ready for a championship fight for two belts with Lara now.

Only way he wouldn't have gotten his shot would have been if Lara vacated.

You claim that I'm a fan who is okay with waiting for fights, and yet you are okay with Andrade vacated just as he is about to secure a fight with Lara.

Now how long will we have to wait before we see either him or Lara in a meaningful fight? And all because Andrade chickened out of negotiations. You're the one supporting the guy who robbed us of a good fight but somehow you've convinced yourself that fans like me are the ones to blame.

Take a good look in the mirror buddy, you're being a hypocrite.

Andrade could have fought Lara TWICE and Charlo TWICE already, and just kept pulling out every time the fights were about to happen, and you still support him despite him robbing the fans of FOUR good match ups.

Fans like me aren't the problem, fans like YOU are the problem. Andrade will never change as long as he has an army of gullable fools.

Lara is no saint, but he never vacated a title or mandatory spot to avoid a fighter, Andrade has Vacated titles/mandatory positions FOUR times to avoid the same two guys.
Speaking as a former Andrade fan I have to ask, how can you support this crap? Is Andrade your cousin or something?

Again, there's nothing in your usual wall of texts that addresses the period starting from late March. You prefer that effing Lara fights another Foreman-type fight.
You're basically saying both of them can go on fight their respective tuneups, after just having one. Then wait another nine months to see what their stand is.
They could have used the said period just to know if the fight is meant to happen or not so we would not have had this useless argument.
Are you a cat and have nine lives?
Time is of no importance to you?

[Sledgeweather17]

Again, there's nothing in your usual wall of texts that addresses the period starting from late March. You prefer that effing Lara fights another Foreman-type fight.
You're basically saying both of them can go on fight their respective tuneups, after just having one. Then wait another nine months to see what their stand is.
They could have used the said period just to know if the fight is meant to happen or not so we would not have had this useless argument.
Are you a cat and have nine lives?
Time is of no importance to you?

Oh I get it now. Geez how ****** am I to only figure it out now that I'm talking to a mentally challenged imbecile.

[rickJen]

Oh I get it now. Geez how ****** am I to only figure it out now that I'm talking to a mentally challenged imbecile.

You should be ashamed of yourself defending a guy who fought the likes of Ishe Smith, Rodriguez, Zaveck, Foreman, Gausha for 2 effing years. Tomato cans that any 154 guy could beat. It was already an outrage when he fought Foreman. The motherfkr came back fighting Gausha. You should never be a fan of the sport. It's embarrassing.