Comments Thread For: Demetrius Andrade's Promoter Details Many Options at 160

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There's some light at HBO after all with their options at 160. GGG, Canelo, Jacobs, Andrade, Lemieux, BJS, and a few others will make for some great fights if they can set them up.

[rickJen]

Dude there's a 90 day period for negotiations, aint no problem with Lara taking a fight as long as it doesn't overlap that period. Andrade could have easily taken a tune up at 154 and then he would be negotiating with Lara now.

Instead he ran to 160 to fight a nobody.

And wtf are YOU the idiot? Old news? What the ****! Charlo just fought Lubin last week, that would have been Andrade fighting Charlo last ****ing week if he hadn't ran away! That is not old news!

Bra are you the type of guy that pretends their girl isn't getting ****ed by your best friend coz you too scared to face the truth? Coz that's kinda like how this is. It's like you've encircled yourself with this wall of denial.

Fact is, NO ONE, I mean LITERALLY NO ONE has ducked Andrade ever! He's the one that has been duck and diving throughout. This aint even hard to see, it's clear as day light.

There's a difference between being a fan and a fanboy bra. Geez! Wtf did I just read!

This guy is taking it all on Andrade.
Fact that Lara fought Gausha and Charlo Lubin, whom Lara says is a child.
You're disgusted by Andrayd but not by Charlo and Lara, fact they Lara/Charlo are not even fighting each other.
Doesn't that even tell you anything about these clowns?
And Andrade is all to blame?
I don't even like any of these clowns.

[Sledgeweather17]

This guy is taking it all on Andrade.
Fact that Lara fought Gausha and Charlo Lubin, whom Lara says is a child.
You're disgusted by Andrayd but not by Charlo and Lara, fact they Lara/Charlo are not even fighting each other.
Doesn't that even tell you anything about these clowns?
And Andrade is all to blame?
I don't even like any of these clowns.

You have a very low IQ don't you?

Charlo only fought Lubin because he was his mandatory, and Lubin was his mandatory because ANDRADE forfeited his mandatory spot. Andrade was originally Charlo's mandatory after Hatley, but Andrade, as usual, pulled out of the fight and went and fought Jack Culcay for the WBA regular belt, allegedly because he was chasing the Lara fight.

But he now conveniently moves up just before Lara is ordered to fight him, but I'm supposed to be angry with Lara and Charlo even though Andrade is the reason these fights aren't happening? What kind of illogical nonsense is that?

[rickJen]

You have a very low IQ don't you?

Charlo only fought Lubin because he was his mandatory, and Lubin was his mandatory because ANDRADE forfeited his mandatory spot. Andrade was originally Charlo's mandatory after Hatley, but Andrade, as usual, pulled out of the fight and went and fought Jack Culcay for the WBA regular belt, allegedly because he was chasing the Lara fight.

But he now conveniently moves up just before Lara is ordered to fight him, but I'm supposed to be angry with Lara and Charlo even though Andrade is the reason these fights aren't happening? What kind of illogical nonsense is that?

This guy made things complicated. People are only interested in the period from Mar 11, 2017 (Culcay/Andrade fight) to Oct 14, 2017. That's seven months. Ample time to negotiate the Lara vs Andrade fight. Were there any offers made to Andrade from Lara's team? None. Why?

[Sledgeweather17]

This guy made things complicated. People are only interested in the period from Mar 11, 2017 (Culcay/Andrade fight) to Oct 14, 2017. That's seven months. Ample time to negotiate the Lara vs Andrade fight. Were there any offers made to Andrade from Lara's team? None. Why?

People? By people meaning you right?

Since you're supposedly against investigating past behaviour, why don't we focus on the now won't we? Let's do that, let's focus on what's happening NOW!

The WBA have ordered that Andrade and Lara have 90 days to negotiate a deal. Let's see who will pull out of negotiations. Remember, if they don't agree, the wba will order a purse bid, and if Lara fails to show for the purse bid, he'll get stripped. If Andrade fails to show, he'll get stripped of his regular title/mandatory spot.

Let's see who will get stripped shall we. I GAURANTEE Andrade will be the one to get stripped. I gaurantee it!

Oh wait, news alert, yo boy has just vacated the WBA regular title....

www.boxingscene.com/demetrius-andrade-vacates-wba-belt-focused-on-murata-ggg--121693

This coward has done it again. First he vacated his WBO title to avoid Jermell Charlo, then he vacated his mandatory position to avoid Jermell Charlo AGAIN. Now he has vacated his WBA regular title/mandatory position to avoid Lara.

He claims to be going for the WBA regular at 160 to become mandatory for GGG, but his past behaviour shows him CONSISTENTLY vacating titles/mandatory positions when a tough fght is about to be announced, so why should any sane person believe he won't vacate again? Maybe he'll try to wait for GGG to retire then go for the vacant title, it certainly fits in with his modus operandi thus far.

Face the music, your boy is a duck. History doesn't lie, and it always repeats itself. People don't change overnight, and Andrade hasn't changed one bit. A loud mouth with no substance or back bone.

[TheCell8]

He's not going to get Canelo or GGG.... He should try and focus on the winner of BJS-Lemieux.

[rickJen]

People? By people meaning you right?

(I read your entire post, am quoting only this part to save space.)
It's clear you have zero interest in the period between Culcay fight to Oct.
Seven months of possible negotiations that would have happened had Lara camp taken advantage of Andrade's availability.
You really don't get it. The period was important because Andrade had nowhere else to go but to fight Lara. He had zero excuse. Which is what you're not getting. So please if you don't have any explanation as to why Lara didn't pursue it when they are in the driver's seat, and instead fought another Foreman type fight.
Man there's nothting worse than cherrypicking Gausha when Andrade was available, not to mention having just fought retired Foreman. It's appalling.
Andrayd now have all the excuse in the world, so forget it.

[Sledgeweather17]

(I read your entire post, am quoting only this part to save space.)
It's clear you have zero interest in the period between Culcay fight to Oct.
Seven months of possible negotiations that would have happened had Lara camp taken advantage of Andrade's availability.
You really don't get it. The period was important because Andrade had nowhere else to go but to fight Lara. He had zero excuse. Which is what you're not getting. So please if you don't have any explanation as to why Lara didn't pursue it when they are in the driver's seat, and instead fought another Foreman type fight.
Man there's nothting worse than cherrypicking Gausha when Andrade was available, not to mention having just fought retired Foreman. It's appalling.
Andrayd now have all the excuse in the world, so forget it.

And you foget in that same period Andrade said things like "Lara is too old, I'm done chasing him" and "I would only fight Lara as a last resort"

Tell me if that sounds like someone who wanted the fight to you?

And why are you trying to shrink the evidence to your own liking? To get to the truth, you have to look at the evidence in it's entirety. Once you start saying 'ignore this period, focus on this period, ignore this info, focus on this one' then it become clear that the truth is not what you are looking for, but rather, justification for your own biased narrative.

Even if Lara blatantly ducked Andrade (which he didn't), but let's say he did.....so what? So ****ing what? Andrade still has a mandatory shot at him, and all he had to do was wait a month or two, he literally moved up a month or two before mandatory negotiations were ordered. He he really wanted the fight he would have waited a few freakin months.

Errol Spence waited nine months for Brook, Andrade could have waited, but he didn't, he timed his move up to avoid being mandated to fight Andrade.

This is the last time I'm replying to you. You clearly have no interest in the truth, you seem content to blindly follow your hero. I dunno if you're his relative, friend, or just come from the same neighbourhood as he does, or even if you're just another fanboy, but for some reason you seem intent on ignoring all of the facts about this guy. That's fine, but don't expect everyone else to follow your lead.

I was a fan of Andrade too, I was happy about his style, he was like a more offensive, fan friendly, southpaw version of Mayweather and without the hand issues, that's how I saw him anyway.

I was happy because I already had my new favorite fighter lined up when Mayweather retired. So if you think my hate is unjustified you are wrong, there is no fighter I wanted to like more than Andrade, and like every fighter that I like, I follow their careers in detail, that's why I was able to quickly realise how much of a con artist this guy is, and that's why I absolutely loath him now. He's a coward, his actions in the past AND currently paint a clear picture for me. I don't know why you can't...or rather refuse to see it.

The guy has talent, no doubt. ATG kind of talent. He is made of that same mold as greats of the past like Mohamed Ali, Roy Jones, Sugar Ray Leonard, Pernell Whittaker, and Floyd Mayweather in terms of physical gifts and ring IQ, but he doesn't have the same mental strength and self belief.

Mentally and personality wise, Andrade is pussie. Scared to death of daring to be great. That's why I don't respect or like him anymore. He's a pussie, a waste of talent.

Mark my words, Andrade will duck all the strong guys at 160 and you will be back here making excuses for him. A leopard cannot change it's spots. Anyway don't bother replying coz I won't read it, I'm done with this topic. It has dragged on long enough.

[rickJen]

Even if Lara blatantly ducked Andrade (which he didn't), but let's say he did.....so what? So ****ing what? Andrade still has a mandatory shot at him, and all he had to do was wait a month or two, he literally moved up a month or two before mandatory negotiations were ordered. He he really wanted the fight he would have waited a few freakin months.

This guy will never get it.
Lara would rematch Zaveck next and he'll find a way to blame everyone but Lara.
He's 34 and this guy talks as if he's got all the time in the world. Helloo! Lara's last fight was retired Foreman! Why is fighting Gausha acceptable to you? Don't you give a fk?
It doesn't matter whether Andrade made statements disparaging the Lara fight. The point was there was zero attempt from the Lara camp to fight Andrayd. There were no offers made! WHY? And that's what you keep avoiding to answer. If there was and Andrayd turn it down then that's the time to blame it squarely on Andrayd. There were no offers made. Hellooo!!
There was no other time than after Lara fighting zombie Foreman, then Andrade fighting Culcay 2 months later.
Don't you even understand that Lara needed to fight a real live body after the Foreman fight? Andrade doesn't have to be in the picture.

[Sledgeweather17]

This guy will never get it.
Lara would rematch Zaveck next and he'll find a way to blame everyone but Lara.
He's 34 and this guy talks as if he's got all the time in the world. Helloo! Lara's last fight was retired Foreman! Why is fighting Gausha acceptable to you? Don't you give a fk?
It doesn't matter whether Andrade made statements disparaging the Lara fight. The point was there was zero attempt from the Lara camp to fight Andrayd. There were no offers made! WHY? And that's what you keep avoiding to answer. If there was and Andrayd turn it down then that's the time to blame it squarely on Andrayd. There were no offers made. Hellooo!!
There was no other time than after Lara fighting zombie Foreman, then Andrade fighting Culcay 2 months later.
Don't you even understand that Lara needed to fight a real live body after the Foreman fight? Andrade doesn't have to be in the picture.

You're the one missing the point. Lara doesn't need to make any offers. If Andrade really wants the fight he can simply wait for purse bid. If they don't agree in the 90 day period, purse bid is ordered and Andrade gets his shot.

We've been here before. This literally happened to Spence just last year. Brook's team only made an offer to Spence like a day or two before the purse bid. Spence waited for his shot and got it.

Demetrius ran with his tail between his legs to fight who? Fox?

Fact is, Lara didn't have to make an offer. There was literally no obligation on him to do so until the 90 day period began, but guess who vacated as soon as it began? Yes, your boy Andrade. Stop ignoring the facts bra, I won't let you spread your lies. I'll be the to spread the truth every time you appear on these threads and pretend that people are ducking Andrade.