Comments Thread For: Is Thurman The Forgotten Man On The Pound For Pound List?

[Chuckguy]

I am really surprised some dont have him in the p4p top 10. Like seriously, name 9 other fighters above him ill wait.

But they will put guys like your boy rigo loma mikey inoue and ggg??? Scratching my fawking head

[john l]

I like thruman and think he should be rated 1 at welter for now but don't like the way he is talkin about spence fight.he satin now he might need two fights before spence that's bs.he is a top fighter but NO star he needs to fight spence winner with a lttle push could become a star. 4 the rec spence wears him down to body and stops him late or wins clear dec

[H.B.Viper]

Well Andres

If it is truly the here, & now, the Charlo Bros should be P4P fighters on everyone's list.
Can't hold them off anymore.

[H.B.Viper]

How does Bud

He is not.

Loma
Golovkin
Rigo
Canelo
Crawford
Estrada
García
Inoue
Nery/SOR
KOva

HE is not better than them

Make the list.
Last time I checked he fought no one near Garcia, & Porter in the hear, & now acorrding to the writer of the article.

[john l]

resume don't make it yet for charlo bros but def could see them towards top soon

[H.B.Viper]

Terence Crawford has never been in there with someone like Shawn Porter or Danny Garcia.

That's all i'm going to say.

Finally someone is thinking outside the box.

[Flabble Scrote]

He's good but not a p4p , Erroll Spence is taking over 147 for sure

[SteveM]

BoxRec's ranking is the most fair and justifiable. Notice, they DO have Thurman listed, though a bit low.

1 Saul Alvarez
2 Terence Crawford
3 Gennady Golovkin
4 Vasyl Lomachenko*
5 Wisaksil Wangek*
6 Anthony Joshua*
7 Jeff Horn
8 Luis Nery*
9 Miguel Berchelt*
10 Keith Thurman

Because it's based on the core question: Who'd you beat recently, and how many of those who's did you beat?

Nery is a bit suspect given he failed a test enroute to that win.

Notice no Rigo and that's because he hasn't beaten anyone worth mentioning RECENTLY.

Spence isn't there - he's a personal P4P for me, but the only real name he's beaten is Brook.

I personally think Crawford's too high, but I get it: he schooled Postol, who was high because he schooled Matthysse.

The problem is too many people are even making excuses for the rankings. I've heard crap like "resume don't matter" and "don't matter how long ago that was" and "X fighter was washed up when they fought". No. It's "who have you beat recently?" That's all that should matter; but people see fighters they don't like up there (Jeff "The Hornet" Horn) and start making excuses for their fighter that lost.

But all Thurman would have to do is unify with Jeff "The Hornet" Horn - who BTW is still # 1 Welterweight in the World, not Thurman - and boom, he'll shoot up. As well he should.

There's no nuance - that decision stunk or at the very least was controversial - so if boxrec aren't going to take account of that plus Nery too then their rankings are as bad as any other misguided rankings.

In general I am all for resume and recent activity - but I want to see allowance for poor or controversial decisions. I also want to see some allowance (but not much) for looking the part because you can look brilliant and not be able to get fights as with Golovkin 2-5 years ago and Rigo to a certain extent when a whole fookin division ran away from him at 122 because 126 looked so much safer.

[john l]

jeff horn ????????????? who the hell would have him pfp or #1 at welter?

[john l]

and nery is a cheat boxrec rankins are as bad as wbc,wba,ibf good for checkin rec they should stick to that