Comments Thread For: Is Thurman The Forgotten Man On The Pound For Pound List?

[daggum]

Yep, thats my perception. 154 and even 160 are deeper. At WW you have two kings and a prince (Porter).

Mayweather and Pac are basically out. Brook and Garcia should still be considered relevant but probably won't be until they actually win a meaningful fight again at 147.

you have one god(jeff horn) and 2 kings and one prince

[SteveM]

jeff horn duh

what i dont understand about the rankings is that horn is ranked#8 after beating manny....yet peterson is above him after beating nobody? garcia is above him cause he beat shot malignaggi and guerrero? makes no sense. and if horn is only rnaked 8th because it was a gift why did they then drop manny down to 9th? shouldnt he still be at the top of the rankings if it was a bad decision?

don't start getting logical with rankings - that'd be like unpicking a lock ... on a kids money box. I mostly like the Ring's rankings better as at least they supposedly have a committee who argue the issues

[daggum]

Thurman is pbc. this site and others get paid by the big promoters, TR, GB, and Loeffler to hype up their guys. Haymon just has his guys fight. G is on p4p list for ko'ing tomato cans, but Thurman is never mentioned. And not many would say that Postol and Indongo are better wins than Porter and Garcia, but Crawford's promoter pays to get him ranked on these lists. Yes Crawford has looked better, but Thurman looked just as good as Crawford and G do against tomato cans.

Besides all that though, Thurman is terrified of Spence. Thurman has been scared to fight the best. He was hyped as the next big thing. He was supposed to be able to beat Mayweather five years ago. Except he fought tomato cans until Porter. Thurman never says he wants any elite level opponent, he is always making excuses as to why this guy or that one doesn't deserve a fight with him. Dang, if he said he wanted anyone from 140-154 and then just kept fighting and knocking out cab drivers at 147 he might be #1 p4p. Except Thurman basically admits he wants nothing to do with the best.

On resume, he is slightly above Spence. But who me and 99% of boxing fans feels is honestly the better fighter and who would win in a fight is Spence. It is a combo of being with Haymon and of wanting all the top ww's to fight each other so he only has to fight one top foe, that keeps Thurman low and off lists. He should be somewhere between 7-15.

yeah look at all the tomato cans and cab drivers he fought...



thurman isnt mentioned(straw man he is mentioned) because his resume isnt as good. pretty simple really. nice conspiracy theories though alex jones. so if top rank is running this site i guess pbc is running you?

[DuckAdonis]

compared to who??? eric crumble yeah sure

Other fighters rated in the p4p list: Inoue, Rungvisai, hell even Spence Jr

[whatismyname]

he need Spence, he'd crack top 5 by that

[Dr.Cool]

yeah look at all the tomato cans and cab drivers he fought...



thurman isnt mentioned(straw man he is mentioned) because his resume isnt as good. pretty simple really. nice conspiracy theories though alex jones. so if top rank is running this site i guess pbc is running you?

First, its not a conspiracy. Promoters pay to advertise on sites like these. That is a fact. It is called business.
And one could say look at Porter, Garcia and Collazo just as easily as Canelo, Jacobs, and Lemiuex.

Second, no one would have G anywhere near the top 3 p4p if only looking at his fights against Canelo and Jacobs. Which by the way, he did draw against Canelo. At least Thurman beat the two opponents he fought. G and Thurman have a lot in common. Both have held at least one belt for years and years, and both fought freaking tomato cans until their last two fights. Both looked like killers against the Wades and Julio Diaz's of the world and both looked good but not top 5 p4p good in their two real fights.

Lemieux and Castillo and Murray and Guerrero and a couple others might not be tomato cans, but they all less than gatekeepers and opponents the best should beat everytime.

[vaynardevil]

victory over nipple spencer will do

[Butt stuff]

jeff horn duh

what i dont understand about the rankings is that horn is ranked#8 after beating manny....yet peterson is above him after beating nobody? garcia is above him cause he beat shot malignaggi and guerrero? makes no sense. and if horn is only rnaked 8th because it was a gift why did they then drop manny down to 9th? shouldnt he still be at the top of the rankings if it was a bad decision?

Yeah Horn would be ok. Spence/Horn would be pretty good too, two bulls going at it.

Still find it hard to work out how good Horn is, did he overachieve against an aging/shot PAC? He could have a run like Brook did against Porter then randomers until he met another top welter. Def needs to fight again soon anyhow.

[Butt stuff]

Yep, thats my perception. 154 and even 160 are deeper. At WW you have two kings and a prince (Porter).

Mayweather and Pac are basically out. Brook and Garcia should still be considered relevant but probably won't be until they actually win a meaningful fight again at 147.

Yeah how the fk did welter go cold and 154/160 get hot so quick!

[Nightfall]

Thurman is a guy that has is way of doing things and sticking to it. Waste of article