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  • john l
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    #31
    Originally posted by Bjl12
    Charlos using PEDs.

    MarGGGarito did not use PEDs - he was just fighting cab driver after cab driver and given a gift decision against a chinny MW and then lost a close fight to Ca$hnelo

    But yeah Charlos are PED PUNKS. They remind me of Andre Dirrells uncle with his cheap thug trash
    I started this post but I don't think you can call them cheaters for sure without some evidence

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      #32
      Originally posted by john l
      charlo hitting like never before,and my boy from MN brant also has improved his power a lot lately. I really do hate to point fingers with I admit NO proof but anyone else name 2 fighters that had same coach who became punchers mid way in pro carear
      Derrick James' prized pupil is Errol Spence Jr; from the root to the fruit, you can see James' philosophy manifest in how Spence has been schooled. On balance, hair-trigger set to fire, effective movement, effective use of punches/combinations, etc.

      When working with fighters who have been schooled elsewhere, James isn't going to completely re-write their style, but he's going to clean up any mistakes and look to add things that he coaches that he believes will work for the fighter.

      Jermell Charlo is coming out, looking to sit down on his shots, in a way that he never really did with Ronnie Shields (compared to Jermall, who's been basically sitting down on his shots from the jump).

      A similar example could be laid out for the work that Virgil Hunter does and the with that Robert Garcia does (Andre Ward and Mikey Garcia are the prized pupils, respectively, and both trainers simply focus in on tweaking what the fighters that come to then can best do in the ring).

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        #33
        Originally posted by Oluminati
        Check the technique!! These guys are being taught the correct way to throw punches. Look at how Jermall shoots his right hand in the Hatley KO and the anticipation in where Lubin was going to duck to when he threw the jab. Also, Jermell always had power but was usually on the backfoot when he was with Ronnie. And Spence breakdowns fighters with leverage and technique, Jermell so happens to get the "I can't get up" KO's.
        ^^^ pretty much this.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Scipio2009
          Derrick James' prized pupil is Errol Spence Jr; from the root to the fruit, you can see James' philosophy manifest in how Spence has been schooled. On balance, hair-trigger set to fire, effective movement, effective use of punches/combinations, etc.

          When working with fighters who have been schooled elsewhere, James isn't going to completely re-write their style, but he's going to clean up any mistakes and look to add things that he coaches that he believes will work for the fighter.

          Jermell Charlo is coming out, looking to sit down on his shots, in a way that he never really did with Ronnie Shields (compared to Jermall, who's been basically sitting down on his shots from the jump).

          A similar example could be laid out for the work that Virgil Hunter does and the with that Robert Garcia does (Andre Ward and Mikey Garcia are the prized pupils, respectively, and both trainers simply focus in on tweaking what the fighters that come to then can best do in the ring).
          so Ronnie showed jermall how to sit on punches but decide not to share it with his bro and another one of his fighters jermell just sayin

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          • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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            #35
            Originally posted by Boxing42
            If I were you I'd put a decent amount of money on it. I was gonna put 200$ on brant but bovada sketched me out so I got paranoid and just took my money instead. I think brant takes care of braehmer easily but I could be wrong
            I'm tempted myself, if it was in the U.S I'd have no problem doing it, but as it's in Germany I feel he may need to KO Braehmer to get the win.

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              #36
              here we go again, boxing fans..........

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                #37
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                I'm tempted myself, if it was in the U.S I'd have no problem doing it, but as it's in Germany I feel he may need to KO Braehmer to get the win.
                and he will I really think its the perfect storm for brant

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by uppercut510
                  here we go again, boxing fans..........
                  love that right hand went crazy when he landed it

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by john l
                    so Ronnie showed jermall how to sit on punches but decide not to share it with his bro and another one of his fighters jermell just sayin
                    Ronnie likely showed both brothers; Jermall seemed to be the only one of the two to pick it up. Derrick James came with a different approach, and it finally clicked for Jermell.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by john l
                      so Ronnie showed jermall how to sit on punches but decide not to share it with his bro and another one of his fighters jermell just sayin
                      Mall is just the naturally more aggressive brother. I mean Lara and Jermall fight nothing alike. Jermell fought more closely like Lara than Jermall does.

                      That was always the difference with the bros. Now not so much.

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