Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Spence-Thurman, Charlo, Lubin, PEDs, More

[Progrssive_Jedi]

THe way these guy should treat any fighting not testing, no one Charlo get let off the hook. If I’m a top fighter, I demand they are tested every week for 8 months before agreeing to fight. If they refuse, like Charlo did with J-Rock, there you have it.

[Oluminati]

I disagree with breadman about the VADA/Clean testing thing. He seems to make it if Vada is more efficient in catching people as opposed to the clean testing program.

But doesn't it make it infinitely harder to cycle peds when you have no idea when or if you're going to be tested or not?

These guys can test anyone at any time, so how the **** do you cycle under those circumstances?

I think Breadman is supporting the other narrative because the fighters that he likes are on that side of the spectrum (Andre Ward, GGG), and of course one of the Charlos KO'd his fighter.

Ask him if Jrock is paying for VADA testing and here what he has to say, let him explain why his fighter is not paying for VADA testing but he expects the Charlos, who are still undercard fighters getting paid only 100K per fight, to pay for Vada testing.

That seems to be the case. Povetkin and Ortiz got caught when the fight got signed and they were enrolled in the CBP for a while prior to that. Doing VADA for the fight ensures you will be tested, enrolling in the CBP does not.

[ShoulderRoll]

This is just great isn't it? Someone win by KO and now they are on drugs? I dislike this charlo brothers attitude but they have been grafting like forever, I didn't pay much attention to them nor did the organisations, since it took them forever to get a chance at the belts, i remember the "testing is for cowards only" brigade (Media and fans back in 2009/2010).... Am glad you guys are now on a different crusade now.

Back then they were all about "let the commission do their job."

[Ray*]

Back then they were all about "let the commission do their job."

Yeah they are now on the “VADA only” crusade.

[Real King Kong]

hurd the black margarito

[FLY TY]

I don't like how Jermell is being perceived as the aggressor in all of this. Lubin came out and called him a paper champ before the fight. Lubin did most of the talking before the fight. Similarly to JRock vs. Jermall. JRock did all of the talk before the fight. After the fight, it is suspected that someone on Lubin's team threw a chair at Jermall, Derrick James and the cutman. Someone threw a chair at them, but it isn't confirmed that it was somone from Lubin's team. That's why Jermall asked Lubin if he was ok because they believe someone from his team threw the chair. People who are crying about testing now are the same ones who were saying that Lubin was going to beat Jermell easily. You can't have it both ways.... The Charlos have no problem shaking hands with fighters who show them respect. I don't recall any problem with Jermall and Heiland. These dudes just have a nasty demeanor and don't take to disrespect lightly. I like that in a fighter. Don't talk sideways and want to hug up later. Be good sportsmen after and BEFORE the fights and maybe this wouldn't be as much of a problem..

With that being said, I do wish more people got the VADA testing. However, you can't just point fingers at Charlos. If only 5% of boxers are signed up, put pressure on the entire 95% who aren't, not just the one you don't like.

Not saying Breadman is lying, but how does he know only 5% of fighters have been tested...

In theory you should only need the cleaning testing program, but with only 5% having been tested there must be funding issues to do such a thing.

Instead of paying for testing for a fight they should put all the money into a pot, make everyone contribute, so that a proper clean testing program can be installed.

Anyone that don't contribute gets told to **** off

It doesn't seem like something fighters should be responsible for. I think the alphabet commissions should be held accountable for this.

I disagree with breadman about the VADA/Clean testing thing. He seems to make it if Vada is more efficient in catching people as opposed to the clean testing program.

But doesn't it make it infinitely harder to cycle peds when you have no idea when or if you're going to be tested or not?

These guys can test anyone at any time, so how the **** do you cycle under those circumstances?

I think Breadman is supporting the other narrative because the fighters that he likes are on that side of the spectrum (Andre Ward, GGG), and of course one of the Charlos KO'd his fighter.

Ask him if Jrock is paying for VADA testing and here what he has to say, let him explain why his fighter is not paying for VADA testing but he expects the Charlos, who are still undercard fighters getting paid only 100K per fight, to pay for Vada testing.

I agree with this in it's entirety.