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  • Straightener
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    #131
    Originally posted by sotgoda
    Actually, Wilder's chin is better than AJ. Go watch the Duhuapas fight. Wilder took some great shots without any effect. The only time he was buzzed is the shot he did not see against Molina. No objective person will say AJ punches as hard as Wilder - the impact on their opponent shows that AJ overwhelms with multiple shots and combinations (best combination puncher in the heavyweight right now) rather than one shot.

    The pathetic things delusional fans from UK say is that Wilder is windmilling. How many times does he do that? He only windmills when he has an opponent hurt. If those punches touch AJ, he goes to sleep as well. AJ has a glass jaw - everyone knows that. That's why he is always on the attack - utilizing attack as his best form of defense.

    39 bums you say - yet Whyte is fighting a guy that was beat by a guy Wilder beat. Who then is the bum?
    39 fights and only fought a hand full of top 15 guys

    Don't get me wrong I get behind my fellow countrymen but there's a reason..

    They put it on the line . Have big respect for chisora, fury, Joshua and whyte to a extent

    If any of those guys fought 39 no hopers I would give them grief too

    Shame you can't see it that way . Sven oktte s**t

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    • Jkp
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      #132
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      It's more exciting if the fights bigger.

      I don't disagree with you though.
      I hear ya, but I dont think starving your fans of the obvious main fights for years and years, is the right way to build them up.

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      • P4Pdunny
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        #133
        Originally posted by sotgoda
        Much respect, bro. It is good to see the honesty. Wilder beats Whyte anytime, anyday - even with one hand. There is no way he is going to luck out against Wilder. He loses everytime.
        fully agree with you, can't see how whyte beats wilder at all

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        • sotgoda
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          #134
          Originally posted by Straightener
          39 fights and only fought a hand full of top 15 guys

          Don't get me wrong I get behind my fellow countrymen but there's a reason..

          They put it on the line . Have big respect for chisora, fury, Joshua and whyte to a extent

          If any of those guys fought 39 no hopers I would give them grief too

          Shame you can't see it that way . Sven oktte s**t
          None of these guys, be it Wilder or AJ have fought world beaters. If you are objective about that, then that's fine. But acting like one of them has a lot more all-time greats on their list of victory is what does not make sense. AJ has 1 all-time great; Wilder has 0; AJ's all-time great was coming from a loss and after almost 1.5 years layoff. Yet, most UK fans act like he did something special. I guess time will tell.

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          • Deus
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            #135
            Originally posted by sotgoda
            None of these guys, be it Wilder or AJ have fought world beaters. If you are objective about that, then that's fine. But acting like one of them has a lot more all-time greats on their list of victory is what does not make sense. AJ has 1 all-time great; Wilder has 0; AJ's all-time great was coming from a loss and after almost 1.5 years layoff. Yet, most UK fans act like he did something special. I guess time will tell.
            He did. That was his 19th professional fight; irrelevant of whether Wlad was coming off a break and a loss that is still a very experienced and very dangerous fighter to take on for a 19 fight 'rookie'. For comparisons sake Deontay Wilder's 19th fight was against some guy called Daniel Cota.

            You really cannot compare the resume of a guy that has 19 fights to that of a guy with twice the amount because the reality is the guy with twice the amount of fights should have much more scalps there... which just is not the case. Granted these last 2 years have been unfortunate for Wilder as he's missed out on 2 scalps in Povetkin and Ortiz.

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              #136
              Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
              Look at Wilder's resume and tell me who you think is better?
              Stiverne literally was the WBC World champion.... Wilder took his strap off of him. Not a vacant title. Meanwhile Whyte hasn't even became European champion! That's the difference.

              Stiverne > Whyte

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                #137
                Originally posted by Deus
                Kinda don’t get how a guy that throws combinations (ergo lots of punches in a shorter period of time) is a slower puncher than someone who throws far less combos in Wilder. Seems to me that people are drawing on the “stiff robot” stereotype with that one. Joshua has fantastic hand speed, probably more so than Wilder.

                Do agree with your assessment of what Joshua would do though, could see a far more defensive game and him waiting on an opportunity to counter and unload if Wilder overcommits.
                In addition, Wilder's punches are a lot straighter than Joshua's too. Where as Anthony's punches tend to be a lot wider. Now tell me who'll get their punches off first if the two were to ever square up and exchange punches? The one who tends to loop his punches or the one who tends to throw them straight down the middle?

                Now don't get me wrong! Joshua does have good lower body movement but very slow upper body movement. That is why he is easy to hit because he doesn't move his upper body as much or as well as his lower body. In other words, AJ is very vulnerable to Deontay's power if he is a stationary target and doesn't move his head.

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                • sotgoda
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Deus
                  He did. That was his 19th professional fight; irrelevant of whether Wlad was coming off a break and a loss that is still a very experienced and very dangerous fighter to take on for a 19 fight 'rookie'. For comparisons sake Deontay Wilder's 19th fight was against some guy called Daniel Cota.

                  You really cannot compare the resume of a guy that has 19 fights to that of a guy with twice the amount because the reality is the guy with twice the amount of fights should have much more scalps there... which just is not the case. Granted these last 2 years have been unfortunate for Wilder as he's missed out on 2 scalps in Povetkin and Ortiz.

                  We are going to have to agree to disagree on this. The win will be much better if the following were in place:

                  1. Wlad was still a champion - which he wasn't
                  2. Wlad was not coming off an almost 1.5 years layoff
                  3. Wlad was not 40+

                  You can compare all you want with whom Wilder was fighting. At the end of the day, let them fight. That will end all these drama.
                  Last edited by sotgoda; 10-19-2017, 10:50 PM.

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                  • Deus
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by champion4ever
                    In addition, Wilder's punches are a lot straighter than Joshua's too. Where as Anthony's punches tend to be a lot wider. Now tell me who'll get their punches off first if the two were to ever square up and exchange punches? The one who tends to loop his punches or the one who tends to throw them straight down the middle?

                    Now don't get me wrong! Joshua does have good lower body movement but very slow upper body movement. That is why he is easy to hit because he doesn't move his upper body as much or as well as his lower body. In other words, AJ is very vulnerable to Deontay's power if he is a stationary target and doesn't move his head.
                    It's strange. I've always seen Wilder's punches as a lot wider than Joshuas. Maybe that's just stemmed from seeing the constant windmill comments on here.

                    Originally posted by sotgoda
                    We are going to have to agree to disagree on this. The win will be much better if the following were in place:

                    1. Wlad was still a champion - which he wasn't
                    2. Wlad was not coming off an almost 1.5 years layoff
                    3. Wlad was not 40+

                    You can compare all you want with whom Wilder was fighting. At the end of the day, let them fight. That will end all these drama.
                    As i've said before I want them to fight too. My comment wasn't to say that 'Joshua is better than Wilder' or vice versa, it was simply to say that beating any version of Klitschko in his 19th fight was an achievement and in all honesty in my view to claim otherwise is just bias so yeh agree to disagree.
                    Last edited by Deus; 10-19-2017, 11:37 PM.

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                    • ashadam
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
                      He will plateau in the UK at some point. It is a small island. The US is an untapped market and bypassing it would be leaving money on the table.
                      In most cases I would agree but he is earning good money from most areas at the moment, boxing in big stadiums with massive crowds. This will not happen in the US the maximum stadium would be 20k but no US fighter for him to fight to get the US crowds out, of course he would have at least 5-10 thousand UK fans but would you swap that for 70k+ of your own countrymen banking on average £10 million per fight.

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