Comments Thread For: Morales, Klitschko, Hatton, Winky: One Hall of a Problem

[IronDanHamza]

Vitali, Morales, Calderon. Easy.

"Vitali didnt fight anyone we remember"... that's how dominant him and his brother were. They literally didn't even give the troll fans a chance to hype anyone up because they'd just run through whoever was next.

Morales is Morales.

Calderon is probably the best fighter on the list... at one point you could argue he was the best pure boxer jn the sport..and that includes when floyd was fighting. Calderon was a special talent. Who doesn't lose at the end of their career?

I love both Winky and especially Hatton but there are levels to this and Calderon's lack of popularity for fightinf in a lower weight class shouldnt count against his sublime skill level.

No you can't say "him and his brother" because Wlad fought people we remember.

How many Top 10 fighters did Vitali beat? Like 3 or 4 or something pityful like that.

He's not HOF material.

[TheBigLug]

Vitali is best remembered for losing to Lewis.

Hatton should be ahead of him. Hatton might also be best remembered for losing to Manny and Floyd but he beat better opposition than Vitali did.

Wlad is a 100% HOF fighter, Vitali isn't. The idea of Vitali is better than the reality. He has a p1ss poor resume. He's a quitter too. Fair enough his eye was bad v Lewis, but he quit on his stool v Byrd. Plenty of people have fought on with that injury. Haye's leg injury was far worse than Vitali's shoulder but he would have fought on all night if he had to. Vitali was more than happy to be pulled out of 2 fights.

[TheBigLug]

"Vitali didnt fight anyone we remember"... that's how dominant him and his brother were. They literally didn't even give the troll fans a chance to hype anyone up because they'd just run through whoever was next.

That's the thing, Vitali gets a lot of credit because people group him and his brother together.

If you judge them on individual merits, then Wlad is a genuine HOF fighter with a solid resume. Vitali isn't.

[elfag]

it's a pickl'em all but I would favor Wright ovet Hatton...I remember Ricky more 4 his losses...

winky is the better fighter by a good margin but hatton is more famous by a good margin. Gatti is in the HOF so hatton will probably get in eventually and maybe in place of wright.

[-Kev-]

Hatton ? For beating who ? MILES past prime Tszyu or lil Paulie ? WTF Are you dumb ass mofos talking about like WTF. i would even put Ottke ahead. seems like yall forgot your medicine

IBHOF makes no sense whatsoever. The "judges" have no actual criteria other than "was he famous?" And "how famous was he?"

That's it.

That's why Gatti, McGuigan, and *possibly* Hatton get in.

[TheCell8]

Its going to be Morales, Vitali and Hatton.

Morales is the only sure fire, but the case for Klitschko and Hatton ovet Calderon and Winky, is that Winky was never the best in his era at any point and suffered a bunch of losses. While his era may be tougher than Klitschkos, the fact that you cant talk about the HW history without mentioning him proves my point. Winky never had that impact. Also Vitalis post boxing career will also give him the edge.

As with Hatton, he was one of the most popular fighters ever and was the lineal champ at one point.

Calderon unfortunately fought in a division no one cares about and also didnt have the same type of impact.

[Ham Porter]

The standards for the hall of fame are so low that they'll all get in, whether this year or the next year. Morales is the only one who would be guaranteed a spot in a legit hall of fame, and Winky would have a legitimate argument as well but merely being good, respectable fighters (as is the cases with Hatton and Vitali) shouldn't be enough.

[daggum]

vitali "my brother was wlad" klitschko shouldnt get in just cause his brother was considered a great fighter(only by those who think clinching is boxing)

[kalman]

Laszlo Papp won actually three olympic gold medals, he had 29 bouts as a pro, won the European crown and was never defeated. It's not fair to compare with the cubans...

[Barristan]

For me:

-Sure-fire, first-ballot - Morales

-Not definitively first-ballot, but should get in if there's room first or second year - Vitali for his dominance and the manner in which he beat guys up, not necessarily available opposition

-Likely deserves, but in time (couple years) - Calderon because of his ability and dominance before downfall with Segura and Wright because he was undisputed, beat a decent Mosley, embarrassed a less than prime Trinidad, was close vs Taylor, and was at one point "the man" at 154.

-Questionable - Hatton because he has one "great" win, but two big losses despite his overseas reign

and got robbed against a prime Vargas