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  • SugarRaRobinson
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    #61
    Originally posted by jjsmyth87
    Mikey has almost 40 fights under his belt and his resume isnt as good as lomas who has less than 10, and you think loma would be the scared one? Mikey is deathly afraid of fighting anyone who has a chance against him.


    Mickey's been begging for this fight for quite sometime now. He even did a impromptu appearance at some interview Loma was at for the sole purpose to get this fight.

    I'm not exactly sure who your trying to shovel this sh.t to, but we're all stocked up over here !

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    • lets rumble
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      #62
      So why not meet at 126 to get credit ...
      Typical bob arum , put 2 superstars in the ring together BUT handicap the opponent in the opposite corner to your charge!

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      • chrisJS
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        #63
        Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
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        Mickey's been begging for this fight for quite sometime now. He even did a impromptu appearance at some interview Loma was at for the sole purpose to get this fight.

        I'm not exactly sure who your trying to shovel this sh.t to, but we're all stocked up over here !
        Mikey does a lot of name dropping, but doesn't follow through for whatever reasons.

        Called Gamboa out, refused to sign. Ditto Cotto.

        A fighter calling a fighter out doesn't mean he wants him. Think BJ Saunders or Adonis Stevenson. It's a tactic used by some fighters to create more interest and a reputation they are feared. It works on some it fails on some. I'm in the camp that it fails on.

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        • SugarRaRobinson
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          #64
          Originally posted by lets rumble
          So why not meet at 126 to get credit ...
          Typical bob arum , put 2 superstars in the ring together BUT handicap the opponent in the opposite corner to your charge!
          I agree,

          I'd be willing to bet that if Rigo was still under Arum, this fight would be at 126

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            #65
            Originally posted by EL_GRINGO
            Rigo wanted 1;5-2 million at that time,ridicioulessnes demand
            how much was salido offered

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            • chrisJS
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              #66
              Originally posted by uppercut510
              how much was salido offered
              750k. Less than the 1m offered to Rigo (if he won).

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                #67
                Originally posted by chrisJS
                Mikey does a lot of name dropping, but doesn't follow through for whatever reasons.

                Called Gamboa out, refused to sign. Ditto Cotto.

                A fighter calling a fighter out doesn't mean he wants him. Think BJ Saunders or Adonis Stevenson. It's a tactic used by some fighters to create more interest and a reputation they are feared. It works on some it fails on some. I'm in the camp that it fails on.
                Your absolutely right, many fighters do name drop for promotional purposes. Having said that, there are also fighters who name drop cause they actually mean it. Mickey is one of these fighters.

                And just because a fighter name drops and the fight falls apart doesn't necessarily mean it's because he's being promotional. Mickey just explained why the Cotto fight didn't happen. Question is did u bother to read it ?

                Everyone knows Mickey is now leary when it comes to signing to a promotional company, so why would GBP ask him to do that in order to have the fight ?

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                • SugarRaRobinson
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by chrisJS
                  Mikey does a lot of name dropping, but doesn't follow through for whatever reasons.

                  Called Gamboa out, refused to sign. Ditto Cotto.

                  A fighter calling a fighter out doesn't mean he wants him. Think BJ Saunders or Adonis Stevenson. It's a tactic used by some fighters to create more interest and a reputation they are feared. It works on some it fails on some. I'm in the camp that it fails on.
                  Adonis Stevenson on the other hand seems to now be "undeniably" one of these promotional name droppers.

                  Sad part is, he's really talented, but refuses to fight anyone with a pulse.

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                  • HI-TECH Boxing
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                    #69
                    If people didn't want this fight at 130, then why keep calling for the fight after Loma moved up from 126? Loma and his fans weren't calling for Rigo once he moved up. It was mostly Rigo's team, fans, and Loma "haters," for lack of a better word.
                    When Loma was at 126 it was mainly Loma fans that wanted the fight. I even said two years ago, that I knew if Loma didn't fight Rigo he would get the blame. And it turns out I was right.
                    The reason it didn't happen at 126 was because Rigo demanded more money.

                    By the way, Salido deserves more money than Rigo.
                    A Salido fight is way more marketable than a Rigo fight. A Loma-Salido fight could potentially sell out the Forum or at least part of it. Salido has huge support in California and there is a story behind it.
                    The Rigo fight is selling out well, obviously, but the Salido fight would be better off.
                    In the long run beating Salido is better than beating Rigo.
                    Rigo is basically a lose-lose for Loma.
                    Salido is also more accomplished than Rigo as a pro.

                    Also, Lomachenko fights at 130 and Mikey at 135. The fight will happen but you people need to be patient.
                    I want to see Loma clean up 130. Loma didn't have the opportunity to clean up 126, so why can't he at least clean up 130?
                    If Loma moves up to 135 next I know there will be people that say he ducked Berchelt or someone like Tevin Farmer.
                    You can't win either way, so Loma might as well clean up 130. You can't please everyone. If Mikey is still at 135 or even 140 the fight will still be available after Loma cleans up 130.

                    If Loma-Mikey doesn't happen it will most likely be due to Mikey's impatience. Mikey hasn't even been at 135 all that long and is already talking about fighting at 147 and 154.
                    I don't know why. There isn't a huge money fight at those weights. Only Cotto at 154 but he is retiring.
                    The money divisions are at 160 and Heavyweight right now.
                    Mikey should calm down and do his thing at 135 and even 140 if he wants. Plenty of fights for him there.

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                    • Mike_R
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Butch.McRae
                      You think Rigo has faster hands than Loma? I doubt it. Loma outgunned Russell Jr. and he probably has the fastest hands in boxing.

                      I think it's Rigo who will have to close the distance and get inside of Loma's work and counter from there. If he's caught trying to boxing at distance, I feel that plays into Loma's hands.
                      I'm inclined to think Rigo might have some speed advantage mostly just based on his being a smaller man and also having elite speed. But he is also older...

                      I really just think they both have incredible speed and timing. If Loma has faster hands come fight night then this fight will be a done deal, Rigo really has no chance if that's the case.

                      I expect some high level chess with this one, I honestly don't exactly know what to expect as far as what it will look like.

                      Rigo is the best opponent Loma has faced IMHO. Russel Jr. is amazing but Rigo has the deeper resume I think (assuming we're including the amateur records- which is a huge selling point for both Rigo and Loma's arguments for being at the top of the pro ranks).

                      But that said Rigo is an older and smaller fighter, so logically that points to overall advantage resting pretty squarely with Loma.

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