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  • Sickmerch1990
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    #21
    Wlad hits hard and wilder hasnt knocked out nobody of any credit if he would of ko ortiz fat head would of been thinking twice but only two good heavys he was ment to fight failed drugs test no fault of his own like but now stiverne crap again just hope tyson fury gets his act together proper world champion in the mix

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    • P4Pdunny
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      #22
      Originally posted by Ray*
      Thank God for someone actually speaking sense on NSB for once. like you pointed out this fight hasn't even reach it peak yet. Hearn obviously wanted to maximise the financial part it too.

      This is why he wanted Wilder to come here to fight Whyte, when that didn't happen he is talking about Joshua fighting in america (Showtime seem interested) which would make him known to people there.

      This fight is a NO brainer, there would be too much money lost for it not to happen from both sides.
      common sense still prevails!!

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      • springfiels
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        #23
        I do honestly think Wilder is ducking Dillian Whyte... He won't even engage with him, except for calling out Hearn for offering him a career-high, multimillion pound offer to both knock out Whyte (if he's that confident) and build his profile tremendously in the UK (and probably the US too for that matter)...

        Can't say it's high risk / little reward with the cash offered... So why not take it??

        Now we get Stiverne II...

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        • NEETzsche
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          #24
          If the plan is to fight someone other than Wilder in the USA next, I suppose that means they want Wilder to come to England, because there's no way that Joshua goes a whole calendar year not fighting at home. I can see the fight location turning into another tug of war, since Wilder also seems to think he's entitled to fight at home

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          • kushking
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            #25
            Originally posted by Ray*
            Thank God for someone actually speaking sense on NSB for once. like you pointed out this fight hasn't even reach it peak yet. Hearn obviously wanted to maximise the financial part it too.

            This is why he wanted Wilder to come here to fight Whyte, when that didn't happen he is talking about Joshua fighting in america (Showtime seem interested) which would make him known to people there.

            This fight is a NO brainer, there would be too much money lost for it not to happen from both sides.
            The problem with that is that if 1 of them loses or injures themselves then they just wasted a huge opportunity to maximize the fight as being between two undefeated champs.

            I have no doubt that AJ is not at all scared of wilder,but no boxer ever is when they duck,they ALWAYS duck because they know its a 50-50 fight they might lose & therefore derail their career from maximum paydays possible & instead can make more dragging it out vs bums. The reason im calling it a duck is because Wilder wants the fight immediately & this fight is as big as its gonna get right now,no amount of koing bum journeyman will make AJ a bigger star & Wilders as big as hell get unless he kos Joshua.

            And im no AJ hater, I'm just honest that if any other fighter did this they'd be called a Duck. I think this fight needs to happen asap as then the rematch can happen in 2019 at the latest,& in hw division every fight can be anyone getting kod.
            Last edited by kushking; 10-10-2017, 06:36 AM.

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            • Ray*
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              #26
              Originally posted by kushking
              The problem with that is that if 1 of them loses or injures themselves then they just wasted a huge opportunity to maximize the fight as being between two undefeated champs.

              I have no doubt that AJ is not at all scared of wilder,but no boxer ever is when they duck,they ALWAYS duck because they know its a 50-50 fight they might lose & therefore derail their career from maximum paydays possible & instead can make more dragging it out vs bums. The reason im calling it a duck is because Wilder wants the fight immediately & this fight is as big as its gonna get right now,no amount of koing bum journeyman will make AJ a bigger star & Wilders as big as hell get unless he kos Joshua.

              And im no AJ hater, I'm just honest that if any other fighter did this they'd be called a Duck. I think this fight needs to happen asap as then the rematch can happen in 2019 at the latest,& in hw division every fight can be anyone getting kod.
              Well Wilder doesn't call the shots, just because he wants it immediately doesn't mean he would get it immediately.

              Whyte also want Wilder immediately, in fact he made him an offer that would have represent the highest payday for Wilder. Does that mean Wilder ducked Whyte?

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              • Randall Cunning
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                #27
                Originally posted by Ray*
                Thank God for someone actually speaking sense on NSB for once. like you pointed out this fight hasn't even reach it peak yet. Hearn obviously wanted to maximise the financial part it too.

                This is why he wanted Wilder to come here to fight Whyte, when that didn't happen he is talking about Joshua fighting in america (Showtime seem interested) which would make him known to people there.

                This fight is a NO brainer, there would be too much money lost for it not to happen from both sides.
                Joshua and Hearn are the ones that get the blame by the Wilder crew, but for sure Showtime and Haymon don't want the fight to happen til the fight is at its most financially rewarding.

                Wilder can shout all he wants because that's the only thing that keeps his name out there, riding the coattails of Joshuas popularity, his fans lap it up, but even Wilder knows it aint happening early 2018.

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                • Ray*
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Randall Cunning
                  Joshua and Hearn are the ones that get the blame by the Wilder crew, but for sure Showtime and Haymon don't want the fight to happen til the fight is at its most financially rewarding.

                  Wilder can shout all he wants because that's the only thing that keeps his name out there, riding the coattails of Joshuas popularity, his fans lap it up, but even Wilder knows it happening early 2018.

                  The A-side always gets the blame in boxing, thats how it is. When you are the one doing the calling out its because you know you are the B-side, like you said am sure the fight would happen next year.

                  All they both need to do is keep on winning, and if they are that good then they should both keep on winning.

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                  • Randall Cunning
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    The A-side always gets the blame in boxing, thats how it is. When you are the one doing the calling out its because you know you are the B-side, like you said am sure the fight would happen next year.

                    All they both need to do is keep on winning, and if they are that good then they should both keep on winning.
                    Think itll be Miller in the US as his first fight, if Ortiz gets banned that is. You've got Roman Gonzalez at no2 in the WBA rankings, Yafai/Gonzalez as chief support.

                    Maybe Joshua/Wilder at Wembley in the summer. Although if Haye has the WBO by that time they'll go Joshua/Haye at Wembley, too much money in that fight

                    Joshua/Wilder in Vegas end of the year

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                    • Sparked_26
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by springfiels
                      I do honestly think Wilder is ducking Dillian Whyte... He won't even engage with him, except for calling out Hearn for offering him a career-high, multimillion pound offer to both knock out Whyte (if he's that confident) and build his profile tremendously in the UK (and probably the US too for that matter)...

                      Can't say it's high risk / little reward with the cash offered... So why not take it??

                      Now we get Stiverne II...
                      Yeah, I didn't get that Whyte thing. Didn't he want £7 million or something?

                      I think Whyte would be prohibitive betting underdog. I can't see Dillian doing anything but getting 'baptised' or 'slept' or 'sonned' or whatever stuff Wilder comes out with.

                      Also tbh, no fighter in the sport is going to 'duck' Joshua. He's the poster boy of the sport and the winning lottery ticket. I'm 6'1 and 13 stone and I am not a fighter. I'd fight Joshua, lol. Even footage of him sparking me with a jab would earn me some serious dough.

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