Comments Thread For: WBC Prez is Firm on Exploring New Weight Class at Heavyweight

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You are a serious sci fi fantasy boxing fan aren't you? You are a odd mfer, but you are making me legit LOL respect.

answer the question.

there is nothing sci fi about two current boxers having a boxing match.

further proves your nonsensical use of "sci fi" in this discussion.

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answer the question.

there is nothing sci fi about two current boxers having a boxing match.

further proves your nonsensical use of "sci fi" in this discussion.

Lol if my life depended on some fantasy fight isn't some sci fi bullsh^t. Cmon bro quit being a child. Just take your L and grow the f#ck up with believing all this silly stuff.

There is no "champion of boxing".

There can be a guy who's alleged to be "the baddest man on the planet" who's usually the boxing HW champion of the world, but every boxing HW champion hasn't had this marketing and mythical title.

And it is possible for a top higher skilled under 200lb guy to beat a top lesser skilled 200+lb guy.

Nothing I'm saying is crazy. I don't even get how you are arguing with me over your fantasy bs not based on reality.

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Lol if my life depended on some fantasy fight isn't some sci fi bullsh^t. Cmon bro quit being a child. Just take your L and grow the f#ck up with believing all this silly stuff.

There is no "champion of boxing".

There can be a guy who's alleged to be "the baddest man on the planet" who's usually the boxing HW champion of the world, but every boxing HW champion hasn't had this marketing and mythical title.

And it is possible for a top higher skilled under 200lb guy to beat a top lesser skilled 200+lb guy.

Nothing I'm saying is crazy. I don't even get how you are arguing with me over your fantasy bs not based on reality.

you wont answer the question because we both know you would pick a heavyweight.

there is no champion from the other 16 divisions that vegas would favor over joshua or wilder.

of course the #1 cruiserweight would beat the #20 heavyweight.

but the #1 heavyweight is the #1 boxer in the world. he is the champion of the sport of boxing at any size. having a midget championship in addition to the unlimited championship doesnt change the fact that the unlimited championship determines who the best is at the sport.

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you wont answer the question because we both know you would pick a heavyweight.

there is no champion from the other 16 divisions that vegas would favor over joshua or wilder.

of course the #1 cruiserweight would beat the #20 heavyweight.

but the #1 heavyweight is the #1 boxer in the world. he is the champion of the sport of boxing at any size. having a midget championship in addition to the unlimited championship doesnt change the fact that the unlimited championship determines who the best is at the sport.

Your "game" is child sh^t and all about speculation. And of course sports books would favor HWs right now, but upsets happen all the time. I personally wouldn't hate Usyk's chances vs either guy and if there was a RJJ in his prime type guy at 175 I'd for sure bet on him over Wilder and I'd give him a good chance to beat Joshua as well.

Higher skilled lil guys can beat lesser skilled bigger guys doe regardless of any specific fight that that may or may not be relevant right now in boxing history. It happens in the lesser weights now if you go by fight night weights and it happens at HW now. There is no magical line drawn in the sand at 200lbs that says guys under it can't beat guys over it. That's silly. Idk how you think it's not silly.

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Your "game" is child sh^t and all about speculation. And of course sports books would favor HWs right now, but upsets happen all the time. I personally wouldn't hate Usyk's chances vs either guy and if there was a RJJ in his prime type guy at 175 I'd for sure bet on him over Wilder and I'd give him a good chance to beat Joshua as well.

Higher skilled lil guys can beat lesser skilled bigger guys doe regardless of any specific fight that that may or may not be relevant right now in boxing history. It happens in the lesser weights now if you go by fight night weights and it happens at HW now. There is no magical line drawn in the sand at 200lbs that says guys under it can't beat guys over it. That's silly. Idk how you think it's not silly.

do you understand how much more lucrative heavyweight is than cruiserweight?

if usyk's team thought he had even a 10% chance against joshua, he'd be fighting at heavyweight.

enjoy whatever fights you enjoy, but you have absolutely zero knowledge of how this business works. this is like trying to talk rocket science with a goat.

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do you understand how much more lucrative heavyweight is than cruiserweight?

if usyk's team thought he had even a 10% chance against joshua, he'd be fighting at heavyweight.

enjoy whatever fights you enjoy, but you have absolutely zero knowledge of how this business works. this is like trying to talk rocket science with a goat.

We haven't even been talking about boxing business, we are talking sci fi fantasy bullsh^t that you believe is true like no one under 200lbs can beat the #1 guy over 200lbs.

You just brought business up out of the f#cking blue in your last post so as per this whole fantasy argument your bringing up this is just a lil more fantasy on your understanding of my take on how things work behind the scenes when we haven't talked about that.

Your imagination is strong I'll give you that. You used to be my least favorite alt/troll account but you are fast becoming my favorite.

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please give us the name of the fighter weighing under 200 pounds who would be favored over joshua.

you can't.

name a fighter under 200 who would have been favored over the #1 heavyweight but wasnt allowed to fight at heavyweight.

you cant.

who is really speaking fantasy then?

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This is total BS !! theres already wayyyy to many divisions !!!!

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please give us the name of the fighter weighing under 200 pounds who would be favored over joshua.

you can't.

name a fighter under 200 who would have been favored over the #1 heavyweight but wasnt allowed to fight at heavyweight.

you cant.

who is really speaking fantasy then?

What does favored got to do with anything? Joshua is beatable just like everyone else. And a guy more skilled than him vs the weight advantage Joshua would have over him could beat him. You & I could speculate all day who that may or may not be or if that person exists at all right now or if that person is around 2 years from now.

The reality & bottom line is doe like I've been saying for 20 posts now I think is that a higher skilled under 200lb guy CAN BEAT a lesser skilled top 200+lb guy. Higher skilled lower weight fighters beat lesser skilled higher weight fighters ALL THE TIME. There is nothing magical that happens at 200lbs. The only issue is that there tends to be a bigger weight advantage so obviously the skill advantage would need to be greater to diffuse that bigger weight advantage.

Everything else about this guy or that guy being able to do it in this world where no one can actually do it cuz commissions won't let a non-HW fight a HW unless they turn into a HW, which negates some of their natural advantages, is more speculation cuz we can't ever see that fight any damn way. But there is lil doubt in my mind that a RJJ could've beaten Holyfield when RJJ was the P4P best fighter in the world by most people & Holyfield was "the baddest man on the planet" lol. And I doubt RJJ would have been favored if a 175lb RJJ could have got the fight sanctioned vs a 215-220lb Holyfield.

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What does favored got to do with anything?

Because it forces you to think within reality, something you're trying desperately to avoid.

a higher skilled under 200lb guy CAN BEAT a lesser skilled top 200+lb guy.

Nobody ever said otherwise.

There is nothing magical that happens at 200lbs.

Nobody said there was, but clearly you eventually reach a weight where you become too big to be the best fighter in the world, which is why we rarely see 300 pounders contending for the heavyweight championship.

Bigger is better until a certain point and then bigger isn't better anymore.

Everything else about this guy or that guy being able to do it in this world where no one can actually do it cuz commissions won't let a non-HW fight a HW unless they turn into a HW, which negates some of their natural advantages, is more speculation cuz we can't ever see that fight any damn way.

This is another great example of you having zero understanding of how the industry works.

HW doesn't have a minimum nor does it have a maximum. You don't have to weigh above 200 pounds to fight at heavyweight.

Your premise is that there are these magical 175 pounders who would beat Wilder and Joshua if only the commissions would let them try, but the commissions force them to gain weight and then they can't beat Wilder and Joshua because they were forced to gain weight, but had they been allowed to weigh 175, they would have won.

Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?

The best 175 pounder has ZERO CHANCE against the best 250 pounder. They would get killed.

But the best 250 pounder would likely beat the best 300 pounder because time and time again we've seen that eventually guys become too big and can't compete with the Lennox Lewis/Klitschko/Joshua sized guys.