How Big Will A W Be For Each Man

[Lopez_Boxing]

If RIGO WINS, he becomes the CLEAR NUMBER 1 PFP in boxing, no one should even question that.

Talent wise I think either or should be a clear one. But arguments are going to be “not that many fights, who have they beaten” yada yada. And my rebuttal would be “when you’re as good as these 2 there’s never anyone to beat” they are just that good. Uphill battle for rigo, but I’m rooting for him.

[The Big Dunn]

What exactly will a victory or loss mean for each man?

IMO Loma is going to win by KO. It's hard for me to consider this a great win for Loma given he is bringing Rigo up 2 weight classes (remember what a lot of you said about this).

That said, if Loma wins, I will consider it a significant win and one that reaffirms his position as one of the best in the sport.

If Rigo wins, I will consider it a major upset and a career defining win, even better than Nonito. It will increase my respect for Rigo because he will have beaten a bigger and IMO better man who is much younger and near prime.

[DuckAdonis]

I have several rated above both men P4P, most notably Crawford and Mikey.

I don't think a victory by either guy gets them past those two.

Why not, who has Crawford or Mikey Beat that are better than Loma Or Rigo ?

[Zaroku]

The biggest win of either man's career.

Rigo is at a disadvantage in that he's significantly smaller, older, and has had no decent competition in a long time. So, naturally, Rigo gets supreme credit if he wins.

That doesn't take anything away from the fact that it would still be Loma's biggest win and that he'd possibly deserve P4P #1 status.

I Agree, but since the media seems to love Loma more, Rigo beating Loma is a bigger deal career wise.

Imo

[koolkc107]

Why not, who has Crawford or Mikey Beat that are better than Loma Or Rigo ?

But see, by that reasoning Rungvisai is P4P #1 since he beat Chocolatito twice, and I don't believe THAT either.

I don't think the resume of either guy is better or more extensive than the resume of Mikey or Bud.

Either one has beat more good fighters than those two combined.

So yeah they will move up.

But #1?

No.

[Redd Foxx]

But see, by that reasoning Rungvisai is P4P #1 since he beat Chocolatito twice, and I don't believe THAT either.

I don't think the resume of either guy is better or more extensive than the resume of Mikey or Bud.

Either one has beat more good fighters than those two combined.

So yeah they will move up.

But #1?

No.

Lol @ that avi. love it

[DuckAdonis]

But see, by that reasoning Rungvisai is P4P #1 since he beat Chocolatito twice, and I don't believe THAT either.

I don't think the resume of either guy is better or more extensive than the resume of Mikey or Bud.

Either one has beat more good fighters than those two combined.

So yeah they will move up.

But #1?

No.

Well would you say that rungvisai is as skilled as rigo or Loma? Or was on the p4p list before he beat Gonzalez ?

[koolkc107]

Well would you say that rungvisai is as skilled as rigo or Loma? Or was on the p4p list before he beat Gonzalez ?

P4P isn't always about skill per se.

The theory is about the question of who wins a fight assuming all the fighters are the same size.

Skill-wise, Rigo and Loma are exceptional...but so was Paulie Malignaggi and I don't think he ever made a P4P list as technically good as he was.

No matter what happens in December, Mikey and Bud beat the BeJesus out of Loma and Rigo if they happen to do a catchweight.

Because Mikey and Bud are P4P better than Loma and Rigo.

[DuckAdonis]

P4P isn't always about skill per se.

The theory is about the question of who wins a fight assuming all the fighters are the same size.

Skill-wise, Rigo and Loma are exceptional...but so was Paulie Malignaggi and I don't think he ever made a P4P list as technically good as he was.

No matter what happens in December, Mikey and Bud beat the BeJesus out of Loma and Rigo if they happen to do a catchweight.

Because Mikey and Bud are P4P better than Loma and Rigo.

Well i dont think Mikey is better than them p4p but you can think that. I think even Loma being naturally smaller has a good chance of beating him at lightweight

[_original_]

I just can't see Loma getting P4P #1 for beating an older fighter, as good as Rigo may be.

And, I can't see Rigo getting it either for beating a guy that passes the eye test with flying colors but is hella short on resume.

Either moves up with a W, but #1 will still be Crawford and I personally have quite a few ranked higher than either and they will not leapfrog all of them.

Yet you somehow have Crawford at number 1 who's best win is over the smaller Gamboa? Plus a resume riddled with B level fare like Dulorme, Postol, and Udongo.