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  • I merely think that is because Saunders fights to your level. He is one of those guys that does just enough every round. If you bring it, he will bring it... but if you don't do much, neither will he. Saunders is classy... and I'm sure he could beat GGG or Canelo (not saying he would, but he could).

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    • Originally posted by daggum View Post
      eubank should win this tournament. his only real test will be groves who is fragile. other side of the bracket is filled with tragedy
      Isn't Rob Brant in this tournament too? Been hearing he's a dark horse kinda like Andre Ward was in the last tournament.

      He is trained by Dereck James (Jermell Charlo and Errol Spence's trainer) and I watched an interview on youtube where Spence and Charlo were giving the guy made props and rated him as the next big thing at 168.

      I must admit I haven't actually seen the guy fight but if he's in the tournament and is even half as good as Spence and Charlo said he was then maybe he could be the real threat to both Grooves and Eubanks.

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      • Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
        I watched one of his fights on YouTube and wasn't impressed. Not saying he can't win over his elderly opponent in the opening round cuz I think that's winnable for him, but he's 30/70 vs Callum at best I think and if he somehow upsets 2 opponents I can't see him beating Eubank Jr at all.



        Lol bro quit taking everything so f#cking serious. I like being serious, but I like joking too sometimes and either it's obvious with anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together or I put a lol after my joke (like in the post you quoted) to make it clear I'm just kidding or playing around.

        Respect on the projecting angle doe I think a lot of cats do that too in fairness. I'm not that guy doe. I think Groves would fight whoever at 168.



        True. No shame in that L, but I feel like a lot of people are defining him on that L and let's not act like BJS stock market value isn't at an all time low since he won that belt so that reflects on Eubank Jr too fairly or unfairly.
        When you don't go out of your way to avenge an L then you deserve to be judged on that L.

        Great fighters always avenged their L's, or at the very least tried to.

        Guys who don't are just plain *******. I understand if the guy who beat you retired or something but if the guy is still fighting you should be going after him. How do I support you knowing that you have no chance of being the best? Coz let's face it you can't be the best if you're avoiding the guy who beat you,

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        • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
          I agree with the earlier poster who said that Eubank (and Saunders) are horribly under-rated on this site

          I have actually noticed that with other UK fighters also

          they are both very good fighters

          but yea, not what you said
          They are both very talented, but not very good at all.

          Good fighters fight the best available fighters, and these guys have gone out of their way to avoid testing themselves.
          That's why people don't rate them. Eubank avoided a Saunders rematch, ducked Jacobs, and refused to sign the contract for a GGG showdown.

          Saunders has basically avoided every credible opponent since winning his title.

          You can't rate people like that, no matter how much natural talent they have.

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          • Where's his loud mouth coach now?

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            • Originally posted by Sledgeweather17 View Post
              When you don't go out of your way to avenge an L then you deserve to be judged on that L.

              Guys who don't are just plain *******.
              Lol nah. It ain't that serious except to boxing dipsh^ts who judge sh^t more irrationally than a hungry pregnant woman making food decisions at 3am.

              Plenty of good to great fighters got unavenged loses and no one even knows the backstory of those L's or more importantly give a single f#ck about them when they happened earlier in their career.

              If you specifically judge good to great fighters like that for early L's fair play to you, but you're in the minority because most understand learning experiences were good to great fighters come up short happen and sometimes they don't avenge them and it's whatever.

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              • Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                Lol nah. It ain't that serious except to boxing dipsh^ts who judge sh^t more irrationally than a hungry pregnant woman making food decisions at 3am.

                Plenty of good to great fighters got unavenged loses and no one even knows the backstory of those L's or more importantly give a single f#ck about them when they happened earlier in their career.

                If you specifically judge good to great fighters like that for early L's fair play to you, but you're in the minority because most understand learning experiences were good to great fighters come up short happen and sometimes they don't avenge them and it's whatever.
                Well said. Plus, according to Eubank Jr he has wanted the rematch with Saunders ever since the end of their first fight. I know Saunders has said he was willing to do the rematch and he says Eubank wasn’t. But unless I missed something this is just usual Boxing **** talking and mudslinging and i don’t know why we necessarily would take BJS version as truth and assume Eubank is avoiding him and not trying to avenge his only loss.

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                • Eubank gets better every fight now i think he wins the tournament. A few years ago he has been a joke but he is developing well. Saunders is still trash though. British version of Daniel Geale.
                  Last edited by Tobi.G; 10-08-2017, 02:10 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by Sledgeweather17 View Post
                    They are both very talented, but not very good at all.

                    Good fighters fight the best available fighters, and these guys have gone out of their way to avoid testing themselves.
                    That's why people don't rate them. Eubank avoided a Saunders rematch, ducked Jacobs, and refused to sign the contract for a GGG showdown.

                    Saunders has basically avoided every credible opponent since winning his title.

                    You can't rate people like that, no matter how much natural talent they have.

                    I completely disagree with that

                    I agree that they should fight the best available

                    but I do not agree that your opinion on why those fights have not happened (yet) is sufficient justification to immediately draw that conclusion

                    in some examples you could be right, but not in all

                    plenty of fighters fought everyone, but were not as good at those who did not, for whatever reason

                    nobody gave Burley his shot.... Wilder's opponents keep failing drug tests.... Golovkin has avoided better opponents than he has fought.... they ALL said that about Canelo back when he was about 19/20..... fighters develop differently, some come on faster than others.... Chavez Jnr will fight anyone, but he is not very good.... etc etc

                    actually, not 100% disagreeing with you, but you can't say that as a rule..... it's just not that simple

                    which is why in Rold's MAAT articles, Cliff briefly mentions fights that did not happen, but specifically states that he does not concern himself with why those fights did not happen..... mainly because he wouldn't know, it would only be guessing, and he-said she-said type information is notoriously unreliable

                    who would we rely upon for that type of information, someone like say..... Tom Loeffler???

                    EVERYONE (was dumb as a fkn rock) when they blamed Mayweather for killing the Pac fight back in 2010..... NOW, almost everyone can see that it was Arum, and some have even smartened up enough to wonder why Pac refused the blood tests

                    you can't go by public opinion

                    they are both good fighters, but largely untested..... to find out how good, we will have to wait and see..... we don't know the ceiling for either of those guys yet, so you simply cannot refuse to rate them

                    1) Saunders signed to fight Golovkin, in Kazakhstan.....

                    I am not going to call Saunders an outstanding fighter just for signing the contract, so why would I refuse to rate him just because Golovkin passed on BJS to fight Canelo?

                    2) Eubank signed to compete in a knockout tourney where his opponents will be mandated

                    they have both stepped up in one way or another

                    more time required, things will become clear

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                    • Originally posted by Sledgeweather17 View Post
                      They are both very talented, but not very good at all.

                      Good fighters fight the best available fighters, and these guys have gone out of their way to avoid testing themselves.
                      That's why people don't rate them. Eubank avoided a Saunders rematch, ducked Jacobs, and refused to sign the contract for a GGG showdown.

                      Saunders has basically avoided every credible opponent since winning his title.

                      You can't rate people like that, no matter how much natural talent they have.

                      it is difficult to rank them, I agree

                      you need wins for that

                      but they are both good fighters, so I do rate them

                      just not sure how high yet

                      I rated Loma so highly that I ranked him in my P4P list well over a year ago (I mostly use eye-test for P4P)

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