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WBC Didn't Allow Ortiz To Fight Wilder, But Allowed Morales To Fight Garcia?

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  • WBC Didn't Allow Ortiz To Fight Wilder, But Allowed Morales To Fight Garcia?

    As many recall, Eric Morales tested positive for a PED prior to the Danny Garcia rematch. With Garcia in agreement, the WBC allowed the fight to go ahead. Unfortunately, in perhaps a fight which created far more public interest, they decided not to allow Ortiz to go ahead with the Wilder fight, despite Wilder stating publicly that he'd still like to retain Ortiz as his opponent.

    Could it have been the different substances involved, perhaps Ortiz' history of using performance enhancing substances previously, or did Wilder change his mind behind the scenes and decide that he didn't want to fight Ortiz afterall? Or, one strong possibility is the fact that it was for the prestigious heavyweight title and if they had allowed the fight to proceed it might have set a dangerous precedent in quite a prolific fight - a decision which could tarnish the image of boxing?

  • #2
    i cant imagine wilder put up much of a protest to be honest... fight could and should have gone ahead. If it was some moral thing of wilders to take a stand against PED users, he probably shouldnt have signed up to fight a recent PED user as a replacement.

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    • #3
      I thought they chalked it up to tainted meat.

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      • #4
        WBC would have obviously discussed it with Wilder before coming to a decision. I'm guessing Wilder would rather cry than fight the guy.

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        • #5
          The problem is that even if you believe Ortiz's lame excuse, it then means that Ortiz has been hiding a serious health condition that calls into question whether he should be competing in high level professional athletics. So of course the WBC is going to require Ortiz to undergo medical evaluations before determining whether it is safe for him to fight with such a severe blood pressure issue.

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          • #6
            Vargas-Salido and Stiverne-Povetkin too.

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            • #7
              ... tbh, WBC has VADA now... Did Ortiz ever take VADA testing until now?... Or Joshua?...

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              • #8
                I was just listening to the UFC USADA guy on Bruce Buffer's podcast & he was talking about disclosing things you are on that could make you come up dirty & he said if you don't disclose things you are on you are some level of f#cked with them basically if they come up on your results.

                If this had happened with the UFC he'd for sure be looking at a 6mo to 1yr suspension + a nice fine for not properly disclosing this banned substance he was legally taking apparently for non-PED reasons. You can't just say oops I forgot to disclose that info & be good with these OST cats.

                He also spoke on the Mexican meat angle with UFC guys & like Morales had an issue with too & thats often been consider a no fault situation & no fine or suspension given for that as its not malicious & guys didn't disclose it cuz they weren't even aware of it being in their system or a thing happening. Its only been in the last few years when thats been discovered as a problem with people in that industry using the banned substances on their cattle.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post
                  ... tbh, WBC has VADA now... Did Ortiz ever take VADA testing until now?... Or Joshua?...
                  Wait: "Luis Ortiz
                  Congratulations to Luis Ortiz for successfully completing VADA...."

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                  • #10
                    maybe it came down to the opponents.

                    maybe garcia still wanted to fight, and wilder didnt

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