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  • #61
    Originally posted by daggum View Post
    floyd was the most drained vs pac. thats why he needed that iv
    2 BANNED IV bags!!!

    Yet he was boasting that its others that need to dehydrate themselves severally not him .... because he walks around close to the weigh-in weight




    Imagine, 1 minute FLoyd needs IV bags due to a supposed "emergency situation" then he does this right after instead of being rushed to the hospital due to his "emergency situation" .... believable? Nope!

    "Floyd Mayweather, who invited FightHype.com into his home less than 24 hours before he steps into the ring to face Manny Pacquiao"

    "I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148...I'm extremely happy with everything...right now, my house is real, real peaceful and that's the way I like it," stated undefeated pound-for-pound king" - Floyd Mayweather


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    • #62
      Originally posted by travestyny View Post
      Manny admit that he was seeking an advantage, even though he weighed enough to make 147.




      Translation:






      To be fair, of course I believe Mayweather asked for 152 for his advantage. But let's be real. Which fighter needed an advantage more? Mayweather is not big enough for 154 (which would obviously be an advantage for Canelo), so bringing Canelo down a couple of pounds, I think it's fair. Manny DID NOT need to bring Cotto down from 147. Not at all.
      The double standards are real.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        2 BANNED IV bags!!!

        Yet he was boasting that its others that need to dehydrate themselves severally not him .... because he walks around close to the weigh-in weight




        Imagine, 1 minute FLoyd needs IV bags due to a supposed "emergency situation" then he does this right after instead of being rushed to the hospital due to his "emergency situation" .... believable? Nope!

        "Floyd Mayweather, who invited FightHype.com into his home less than 24 hours before he steps into the ring to face Manny Pacquiao"

        "I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148...I'm extremely happy with everything...right now, my house is real, real peaceful and that's the way I like it," stated undefeated pound-for-pound king" - Floyd Mayweather




        So which is more believable?


        Floyd beat Manny because he infused salt water and vitamin C....


        Or Manny Pacquaio healed his shoulder with salt water.


        Man, that salt water, doe!
        Last edited by travestyny; 10-07-2017, 03:50 AM.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Thraxox View Post
          The double standards are real.
          Explain.


          You mean there was more of a reason for Manny to ask for the catch-weight with Cotto than for Floyd to ask for the catchweight with Canelo?

          I'm assuming that's what you mean, from the posts I've seen from you. Care to explain?

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          • #65
            Originally posted by travestyny View Post
            Explain.


            You mean there was more of a reason for Manny to ask for the catch-weight with Cotto than for Floyd to ask for the catchweight with Canelo?

            I'm assuming that's what you mean, from the posts I've seen from you. Care to explain?
            Floyd fought Dela Hoya for a 154 title at full 154 pounds while he weighed somewhere at 150-151 and then prior to the Canelo fight, he fought Cotto at full 154 and fought above 152+ after the Canelo bouts. Manny fought Dela Hoya at 147 while weighing at 142 in a non title fight after jumping from 135 then dropping back to 140 then after that settling in at 145 against Miguel Cotto. And after that, all of his bouts had been at full 147 except for JMM and Algerie, Margo.

            If you can't see why a former flyweight and a superfeather weight a year prior to the MC fight needed a 145 catchweight instead of the useless 152 Floyd had on Canelo who fought at full 154 in the past. Then I can't explain it clearer for you.
            Last edited by Thraxox; 10-07-2017, 04:01 AM.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Thraxox View Post
              Floyd fought Dela Hoya for a 154 title at full 154 pounds while he weighed somewhere at 150-151 and then prior to the Canelo fight, he fought Cotto at full 154 and fought above 152+ after the Canelo bouts. Manny fought Dela Hoya at 147 while weighing at 142 in a non title fight after jumping from 135 then dropping back to 140 then after that settling in at 145 against Miguel Cotto. And after that, all of his bouts had been at full 147 except for JMM and Algerie, Margo.

              If you can't see why a former flyweight and a superfeather weight a year prior to the MC fight needed a 145 catchweight instead of the useless 152 Floyd had on Canelo who fought at full 154 in the past. Then I can't explain it clearer for you.
              Complete bullshlt.

              Floyd has never weighed 154, as you know. He actually lost weight in two of his above 147 fights, after the weighin.

              He weiged 148 on fight night for De La Hoya. Surprise, surprise. Do you know how much Pacquiao weighed on fight night vs. De La Hoya??? 148.5lbs. Difference was Floyd fought De La Hoya at 154 and Pac fought him at 147.

              The highest floyd has ever weighed in was 151.

              The point is that Manny was a full 147lber at least!!!! I just showed you the proof from the manila website:

              At the moment, Pacquiao weighs around 148 to 149 pounds

              So he obviously weighs naturally 149 at least, and likely more than that. So if he is a full 147, why does he need the advantage? Mayweather is certainly not a full 154lber.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                Complete bullshlt.

                Floyd has never weighed 154, as you know. He actually lost weight in two of his above 147 fights, after the weighin.

                He weiged 148 on fight night for De La Hoya. Surprises, surprise. Do you know how much Pacquiao weighed on fight night vs. De La Hoya??? 148.5lbs. Difference was Floyd fought De La Hoya at 154 and Pac fought him at 147.

                The highest floyd has ever weighed in was 151.

                The point is that Manny was a full 147lber at least!!!! I just showed you the proof from the manila website:




                So he obviously weighs naturally 149 at least, and likely more than that. So if he is a full 147, why does he need the advantage? Mayweather is certainly not a full 154lber.
                And it seems it is pointless to argue your double standards. I gave you facts to why Pacquiao needed the 145 catchweight because of all the weight jumping that he had been doing.

                Answer this. Why does Floyd need a 152 against Canelo when he fought at full 154 for title fights in the past.

                And answered I why Manny needed the catchweight but yet you deflect and refuse to acknowledge my answers.
                And then does a complete 180 when it comes to Floyd.
                And also was Manny Pacquiao a natural welterweight when he weighed 142-144 fight night at 130?
                Last edited by Thraxox; 10-07-2017, 04:21 AM.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Thraxox View Post
                  And it seems it is pointless to argue your double standards. I gave you facts to why Pacquiao needed the 145 catchweight because of all the weight jumping that he had been doing.
                  Dude, did I not give you facts? Your "facts" seem a bit off. You didn't explain why a natural 147lber, at least, needs a catchweight to fight at 147lbs. Manny was clearly a 147lb fighter.


                  Originally posted by Thraxox View Post
                  Answer this. Why does Floyd need a 152 against Canelo when he fought at full 154 for title fights in the past.
                  I thought I did. Floyd Mayweather is not a full 154lb fighter. At the weight, the highest he has weighed in was 151. For De La Hoya, he actually lost weight after the weigh in and came in at 148. Same with Canelo. He weighed in 150.5 and came in at 150, I believe.

                  Originally posted by Thraxox View Post
                  And answered why Manny needed the catchweight but yet you deflect and refuse to acknowledge my answers.
                  And then does a complete 180 when it comes to Floyd.
                  And also was Manny Pacquiao a natural welterweight when he weighed 142-144 fight night at 130?
                  I refused to acknowledge your answers because I hit you with facts. Do you see where it says that at that time in training camp, Pac was around 149lbs. What does that tell you? That he was already a bit over 147.

                  How is it a 180. ONE IS NATURALLY AT THE UPPER LIMIT OF THE WEIGHT CLASS. THE OTHER IS NOT. IT'S VERY SIMPLE.

                  Why are we going back to 130? Should we be asking if Floyd was a natural welterweight when he was at 130??? I don't see your point.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                    Dude, did I not give you facts? Your "facts" seem a bit off. You didn't explain why a natural 147lber, at least, needs a catchweight to fight at 147lbs. Manny was clearly a 147lb fighter.




                    I thought I did. Floyd Mayweather is not a full 154lb fighter. At the weight, the highest he has weighed in was 151. For De La Hoya, he actually lost weight after the weigh in and came in at 148. Same with Canelo. He weighed in 150.5 and came in at 150, I believe.



                    I refused to acknowledge your answers because I hit you with facts. Do you see where it says that at that time in training camp, Pac was around 149lbs. What does that tell you? That he was already a bit over 147.

                    How is it a 180. ONE IS NATURALLY AT THE UPPER LIMIT OF THE WEIGHT CLASS. THE OTHER IS NOT. IT'S VERY SIMPLE.

                    Why are we going back to 130? Should we be asking if Floyd was a natural welterweight when he was at 130??? I don't see your point.
                    You could’ve just told him that Marquez, in all his Welterweight fights, doesn’t bottle to 147. Makes Pac-Man look like a bïtch with his catchweight legacy all because papa Arum and mgmt spoon fed this fake’s career

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Thraxox View Post
                      And also was Manny Pacquiao a natural welterweight when he weighed 142-144 fight night at 130?
                      You might find this interesting.

                      Pac weighed in 129.5 for Morales.
                      He rehydrated to 139.


                      Mayweather weighed in 129.5 for Chavez.
                      He rehydrated to 137.5.


                      Don't you think that these two guys, who at 16 were both at 106lbs, are about the same damn size?
                      Last edited by travestyny; 11-08-2017, 07:44 PM.

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