Here's Where All The Floyd Cheat Theories Fail

[travestyny]

so please show her science on why Jon Jones who was caught using steroids and banned substances on various occasions has a normal T/E ratio

His sample was tested at a WADA Laboratory. I THINK Dr. Christiane Ayotte's INFORMATION WAS BACKED UP BY THE FACT THAT HIS URINE TESTS PASSED CIR TESTING AFTER THEY WERE RETESTED!!!

Hmmm. So Should we believe you, or the head of a ****ing WADA laboratory?

That's what I thought.

AND NO, IT WASN'T TESTED AT HER LABORATORY.

[maracho]

His sample was tested at a WADA Laboratory. I THINK Dr. Christiane Ayotte's INFORMATION WAS BACKED UP BY THE FACT THAT HIS URINE TESTS PASSED CIR TESTING AFTER THEY WERE RETESTED!!!

Hmmm. So Should we believe you, or the head of a ****ing WADA laboratory?

That's what I thought.

AND NO, IT WASN'T TESTED AT HER LABORATORY.

That is why I left a real scientific link to prove my assertions that she is wrong. Where are her citations besides the MMA media and her boss **** Pound who is just a taxman?

You claim that you agree with Victor Conte yet he also says she is wrong so reread your own linked article where Conte says: "The average amount of testosterone in a male is 61.3 ng/dl per a groundbreaking 1967 study in Clinical Chemistry. In the three tests given to Jones, he had testosterone levels of 1.8 ng/mL, 0.59 ng/mL and 4.9 ng/mL....The normal is [much higher], but when you look at his testosterone level, it's 4.9 [ng/mL], meaning it's almost suppressed to zero"

You also claim that CIR testing is what cleared Jones but “USADA maintains, however, that focusing only on CIR testing is not up to current scientific practices. USADA also utilizes the Athlete Biological Passport to longitudinally monitor an athlete’s urine and blood profiles, which allows us to look for any minor or major fluctuations in an athlete’s blood and steroid values, including fluctuations in their [testosterone/epitestosterone] ratio.”

So shes apparently contradicting herself and as Victor Conte, tests and your own article showed, Jone's testosterone is way out of wack

You also asked me about something concentrated that became diluted, etc..please elaborate?

[Shape up]

What do you think that means, you moron

So you wrote down the same rules that I did, but you didn't answer anythingprohibited at all times means just that, monitored isn't the same as not monitored, it's the oppostite

[Team Reek]

PEDs are just prevalant all over sports. Doesn't have to be roids or HGH, it can be EPO, or some other stuff we haven't heard of. I'd be surprised if the majority of world class athletes weren't taking something of the sort. A little disturbing when you think about how dangerous boxing, football, MMA, etc. are, but it's how it is. It's probably been like that longer than people think.

[travestyny]

So you wrote down the same rules that I did, but you didn't answer anythingprohibited at all times means just that, monitored isn't the same as not monitored, it's the oppostite

1. Didn't the WADA spokesman comment on this which pretty much says that you are wrong about their rules. It's not surprising. You've been wrong a lot.

2. Once again, who checks up on USADA? Your argument is idiotic. You're trying to say that USADA broke WADA's rules because WADA isn't responsible for checking up on NSAC. How dumb can you be?

[travestyny]

That is why I left a real scientific link to prove my assertions that she is wrong. Where are her citations besides the MMA media and her boss **** Pound who is just a taxman?

Now the head of a WADA laboratory needs to show you citations? Are you serious? You just are incapable of understanding what she is saying. Just because a T/E ratio doesn't look like what someone calls an average T/E ratio does NOT mean that it is abnormal. T/E fluctuates for many reasons. It fluctuates depending on time of the day, what activity the person was doing before the sample was taken, it fluctuates even with seasons, it fluctuates depending on the specific gravity of the sample. And it fluctuates greatly AMONGST INDIVIDUALS. WHY THE HELL DO YOU THINK A LEVEL OF 4:1 OR ABOVE IS NOT AUTOMATICALLY CONSIDERED A FAILED TEST???? Do you understand now?

You claim that you agree with Victor Conte yet he also says she is wrong so reread your own linked article where Conte says: "The average amount of testosterone in a male is 61.3 ng/ML per a groundbreaking 1967 study in Clinical Chemistry. In the three tests given to Jones, he had testosterone levels of 1.8 ng/mL, 0.59 ng/mL and 4.9 ng/mL....The normal is [much higher], but when you look at his testosterone level, it's 4.9 [ng/mL], meaning it's almost suppressed to zero"

Ok. You seem to be in love with Conte. Take this. Here is Conte's take on all of it:

•IMO. T/E ratio results 4 @ufc Jon Jones are SU****IOUS. 3 urine samples given. T & E levels & T/E ratios all suppressed. CIR tests needed!

•IMO. CIR testing of all 3 @ufc Jon Jones urine samples needed. Reduced T & E levels + T/E ratios could indicate exogenous testosterone use

•Use of exogenous testosterone suppresses testosterone & epitestosterone levels in urine. IMO. CIR testing NEEDED 4 @ufc Jon Jones samples

•Does Nevada comm/ @ufc have the balls to do CIR testing on all 3 urine samples collected from Jon Jones? IMO. All 3 results are SU****IOUS

•Nevada comm claims 2 follow WADA code. When su****ious T/E results are found, their protocol is 2 use CIR tests. Will Nevada & @ufc do CIR?

•If Nevada follows WADA code then @ufc Jones' samples are saved. IMO. His T/E results are su****ious. Easy 2 retest w/ CIR & reveal the truth

•Do @ufc fans deserve 2 know the truth about possible use of testosterone by Jon Jones? IMO. retesting w/ CIR could provide TRUTH either way

•I believe Nevada comm & @ufc have opportunity 2 show their integrity 2 MMA fans by retesting Jones' samples w/ CIR. Will they? @danawhite

•Dana may prove his case w/ CIR test. DO IT

•IMO. @danawhite may help provide the TRUTH about @ufc Jon Jones use of testosterone or not by a retest of his samples with CIR. DO IT DANA!

•Do @danawhite @ufc & Nevada want 2 know the truth about Jon Jones's su****ious T/E tests? We'll see. A retest w/ CIR may provide the TRUTH

•Will Nevada @ufc & danawhite walk the talk? Do they really follow WADA code? Will they follow up on Jones su****ious T/E tests w/ CIR test?

•Wonder if @danawhite has a reasonable explanation 4 the 3 highly suspcious T/E ratio results 4 Jon Jones. Hope @ufc demands the CIR TRUTH

•Does “administrative oversight” explain how Nevada comm failed 2 do appropriate follow-up tests of Jon Jones's urine w/ CIR testing? @ufc

•Testosterone use out of competition is against WADA rules. IMO @ufc Jon Jones's 3 T/E ratio tests are su****ious. CIR follow up tests=TRUTH

•64K question now is will the Nevada comm have the balls 2 do what's right & retest @ufc Jones' samples w/ CIR & reveal the truth? @danawhite

Um....CIR testing was done. I think you can shut up about Conte now. Obviously he was wrong. Clear enough for you?

You also claim that CIR testing is what cleared Jones but “USADA maintains, however, that focusing only on CIR testing is not up to current scientific practices. USADA also utilizes the Athlete Biological Passport to longitudinally monitor an athlete’s urine and blood profiles, which allows us to look for any minor or major fluctuations in an athlete’s blood and steroid values, including fluctuations in their [testosterone/epitestosterone] ratio.”

So shes apparently contradicting herself and as Victor Conte, tests and your own article showed, Jone's testosterone is way out of wack

How is anyone contradicting themselves? If anything, USADA is saying they use CIR testing and the ABP to make sure that cheating isn't done. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that.

You also asked me about something concentrated that became diluted, etc..please elaborate?

No. An IV is used to dilute urine samples. That's how it masks PED use. However, Mayweather's sample was checked for dilution by the DCO and by the WADA lab. So I'm asking for someone to make some sense of that. Shape Up said the sample would be more concentrated, which makes no damn sense at all.

[Shape up]

1. Didn't the WADA spokesman comment on this which pretty much says that you are wrong about their rules. It's not surprising. You've been wrong a lot.

2. Once again, who checks up on USADA? Your argument is idiotic. You're trying to say that USADA broke WADA's rules because WADA isn't responsible for checking up on NSAC. How dumb can you be?

Don't avoid the question at hand, wada official said it wasn't monitored which means it shouldn't have been issued, prohibited at all times means NEVER ALLOWED

[travestyny]

Yo, Dosumpthin, check out these gems from our boy, ADP02. I thought you'd get a kick out of this


Floyd takes PED's BEFORE training camp.

USADA: Floyd waits until the last minute to call a fight. Floyd was cycling off his PEDs and needed more time.

Floyd takes PED's DURING training camp to keep up his false ABP values.

Floyd can presumably maintain an ABP in the higher spectrum and it would look "normal" for Floyd even though it was actually that Floyd was cheating!!!

So when Floyd cheats DURING training camp, the ABP is fooled into thinking his cheating state is his normal state.

Man, imagine, Floyd can cheat during that time frame and it would appear that all things are cool!

Oh, and Floyd also cheats THE DAY BEFORE THE FIGHT, but that's when he kicks into the extra, extra cheating, so he needs to mask it.

By experience, Floyd expected no more testing until after the fight.

He cycles off before training camp, he takes stuff that will allow him to keep using PED's during training camp, and then he takes a wallop of PED's immediately before the fight. Also, after the fight, his blood and steroidal values don't return to normal. He ensures that they magically go back to the cheating level that they were at so that they don't trigger the ABP! Yes, ADP02, the world's brightest, has finally unlocked the mystery for us. Please congratulate him when you get a chance. Perhaps give him a new hat.

[travestyny]

Don't avoid the question at hand, wada official said it wasn't monitored which means it shouldn't have been issued, prohibited at all times means NEVER ALLOWED

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO. You are really slow. Try to understand.

IF the WADA spokesperson makes a public statement saying that it wasn't monitored and SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ISSUED...that means that USADA BROKE WADA'S RULES, RIGHT?

Now. If USADA breaks WADA's rules, and WADA knows about it. What do you think WADA does to USADA?

I'll wait for your answer

[Shape up]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO. You are really slow. Try to understand.

IF the WADA spokesperson makes a public statement saying that it wasn't monitored and SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ISSUED...that means that USADA BROKE WADA'S RULES, RIGHT?

Now. If USADA breaks WADA's rules, and WADA knows about it. What do you think WADA does to USADA?

I'll wait for your answer

Nothing, because that is exactly what happened , you take dumb to the next level, do you think wada hasn't realized this was a publicity exercise for Floyd and usada, the more posts you write the more I'm realizing how idiotic you really are, let's break it down, usada gave a retro tie for an IV given in floyds lounge room 19 days after the fact, with a dco watching on while a violation was occurring, wada by saying that a retro the has to be monitored by wada basically threw usada under the bus, it didn't matter in the long run anyway because if fluid was given a violation he wouldn't have to abide by wadas decision because the fight contract over ruled anything except the NSAC rules