Here's Where All The Floyd Cheat Theories Fail

[koolkc107]

This is as epic a meltdown as I have ever seen from someone professing not to care one way or another.

And, I think I need to clear up what exactly I meant in the OP.

When I said "All", I meant all theories popularly advanced and given any credence, even by those with anti-Mayweather agendas. I meant that no probable theory.

Now, if someone wants to speculate that time traveling aliens from the shadow realm help Floyd use PEDs, then molecularly transported all traces of them from his body everytime he was due to test, I have no answer for that.

But, I think that all popularly advanced theories have been addressed AND UTTERLY DESTROYED by myself and other posters here (most notably Dosumpthin and travestyny).

The only poster that has made any sense in arguing against the OP is Shape Up and I extend my respect to him.

But you Sir are grasping at straws here.

You should stop.

UCI/USADA. Who gives a ****? You think I care if adults playing capture the flag or fist fighting or ice skating or body building or to **** better for their wife use steroids? No.
It’s a sham that we have allowed our government to create an entire industry around this. And in a bloodsport, the corruption is sure to lurk.
Okay. UCI. And?
The Olympics are a joke. The wealthiest country on earth brags about winning gold from super poor, 10X less populated countries.
Think about it for a second.
People will once a scandal breaks. Just as with FIFA, they’ll fake care for a week or so, and then it’s back to TrumpTV.
But who knows? Maybe you’re right. Maybe the average American hinges a lot more on USADA than I realized. I figured the average American doesn’t know who they are.

It’s clearer to me now that you do not understand what “all of the theories of Floyd cheating” means.
One possible theory is that USADA helped him cheat
Another possible theory is that a private lab helped him cheat USADA
Double-up both of those with “with or without Floyd’s knowledge”

And that’s just getting started.

Again, you win. If you wish. Just admit that you won. And walk away.

Be confident in your argument. No need to change it.
I’m getting minor details about ABC organizations wrong. You’re unwilling to admit that you misunderstood the thread’s title (which is what I replied to)

I give a **** about USADA, steroids, Floyd, or whatever.
If Floyd cheated and got away with it, great.
If he gets caught, oh well.
If he’s clean, it’s an impressive athletic feat to have witnessed.

So when you say “you are wrong”, keep in mind that what you sometimes mean is “I disagree with you”.
Wrongness implies a factual inaccuracy, which is why it only stings for about 5 seconds when I catch myself getting something wrong in an argument.
Agreeing to disagree?
That’s fun sometimes.

Not all of Floyd-cheated theories breakdown where OT says they do.
He argues, in one case, that USADA would surely have wanted to out him, and not give him special protection.
Agreed.

What if USADA didn’t know? What if the reason Floyd was with USADA was bc his advisor advised him to. Things can go on behind the back of an uneducated, obsessive egomaniac pretty easily, I’d surmise. Wouldn’t you?
See Mike Tyson.
(and I’m not sure he wasn’t unknowingly pumped up with **** back in the day)

Point is, and I tried to be thorough bc this started off as name-calling bc I think that’s funny on a boxing message board (akin to coming out swinging).
But it looks like a miscommunication.

I like to argue when I think I’m right (as in factually correct in my understanding of the word ‘theories’)

[Kigali]

But think about this. Tyson really had no non-black rival.

Look at the Williams sisters and how the American tennis fans treat them, with tons of them rooting for white foreigners to beat them. Do you honestly think that would be the case if the Williams sisters were White Americans?

You can see that in boxing with Americans rooting for GGG....Loma...and Kovalev.

[travestyny]

You can see that in boxing with Americans rooting for GGG....Loma...and Kovalev.

Without a doubt!!!

[Kigali]

Without a doubt!!!

Meanwhile....

The foreigners they cheer for...only support their own.

[koolkc107]

Meanwhile....

The foreigners they cheer for...only support their own.

That's true.

I distinctly remember Golovkin shouting out his homies back in Kazakhstan.

But Triple G never mentioned one trailer park, meth lab, Cracker Barrel restaurant, or Whole foods.

[Kigali]

That's true.

I distinctly remember Golovkin shouting out his homies back in Kazakhstan.

But Triple G never mentioned one trailer park, meth lab, Cracker Barrel restaurant, or Whole foods.

[nveleven]

This is as epic a meltdown as I have ever seen from someone professing not to care one way or another.

And, I think I need to clear up what exactly I meant in the OP.

When I said "All", I meant all theories popularly advanced and given any credence, even by those with anti-Mayweather agendas. I meant that no probable theory.

Now, if someone wants to speculate that time traveling aliens from the shadow realm help Floyd use PEDs, then molecularly transported all traces of them from his body everytime he was due to test, I have no answer for that.

But, I think that all popularly advanced theories have been addressed AND UTTERLY DESTROYED by myself and other posters here (most notably Dosumpthin and travestyny).

The only poster that has made any sense in arguing against the OP is Shape Up and I extend my respect to him.

But you Sir are grasping at straws here.

You should stop.

Nah. I shouldn’t. Amazing that you actually had to come on here and save your buddy. That’s cute : )
You know people can read this, right?
And, oh I care about lots of stuff. I wouldn’t expect you to understand nuance (layers maybe?) in argumentation.
I don’t care about Floyd. Actually, that’s a lie. There is a side of me that thinks it would be funny for a guy who constantly bragged about his money to end up broke (trigger warning: same wish for Ted Debiase before the race cards start coming out)

I log in a few times to lurk. Sometimes I see a nonsense argument ripe for the picking.

You got picked today.
We all do.
Careful reasoning = meltdown to you.
I see.
Interesting.

Okay. Now. I’m done.
Cowboy game is getting good

[Shape up]

This is the biggest excuse. Whenever you guys can’t come up with something that makes sense, you simply say it’s some kind of blind love for Floyd. Maybe it’s that hate in your eyes.

I’ve asked you s billion times. How did he dilute the sample if it was checked for dilution two separate times by two independent en******.

You respond with nothing. Maybe if you said something logical, you would get somewhere.

How much does an IV dilute a sample compared to drinking water, microdosing is a fine balencing act, drink water and dilute too much, have an IV and dilute just enough, that would explain why he had a non required IV instead of chugging water, we have a physiologist that works with us on the team, as he explained when you dry out for a weigh in your body becomes hypoglycemic and any water you drink initially will be used to flush toxins from your body, an IV is absorbed extremely quickly but won't give you that dilution issue, as we know floyds sample was a partial sample, could have peed 2 drops, waited 6 hours and then peed the rest to make up the sample, a nice easy way to mask his doping

[travestyny]

How much does an IV dilute a sample compared to drinking water, microdosing is a fine balencing act, drink water and dilute too much, have an IV and dilute just enough, that would explain why he had a non required IV instead of chugging water, we have a physiologist that works with us on the team, as he explained when you dry out for a weigh in your body becomes hypoglycemic and any water you drink initially will be used to flush toxins from your body, an IV is absorbed extremely quickly but won't give you that dilution issue, as we know floyds sample was a partial sample, could have peed 2 drops, waited 6 hours and then peed the rest to make up the sample, a nice easy way to mask his doping

Lol. Come on, man. There is not IV dilution, and oral drinking dilution. It’s not separated that way. Dilution is dilution!!! The rule is that the specific gravity must be 1.005 or higher. An IV doesn’t change that!

And you say he can give 2 drops of urine? Really? You do realize everything must be recorded by the DCO, including the volume of the first sample, right? This is all sent to both the lab and updated to WADA’s database. How the hell does the DCO measure 2drops, and think that raises no eyebrows at the lab or WADA?

This is what I mean. You gave two ridiculous scenarios to try to prove this thing.

[travestyny]

Nah. I shouldn’t. Amazing that you actually had to come on here and save your buddy. That’s cute : )
You know people can read this, right?
And, oh I care about lots of stuff. I wouldn’t expect you to understand nuance (layers maybe?) in argumentation.
I don’t care about Floyd. Actually, that’s a lie. There is a side of me that thinks it would be funny for a guy who constantly bragged about his money to end up broke (trigger warning: same wish for Ted Debiase before the race cards start coming out)

I log in a few times to lurk. Sometimes I see a nonsense argument ripe for the picking.

You got picked today.
We all do.
Careful reasoning = meltdown to you.
I see.
Interesting.

Okay. Now. I’m done.
Cowboy game is getting good

I just hope you know....wrestling isn’t real, bro.

Ted Dibiase was not really the Million Dollar man. He was some regular dude off the street who wanted to wrestle. The character was made up.

Sorry if that bursts your bubble