Here's Where All The Floyd Cheat Theories Fail

[travestyny]

Oh look at this-------I was quite surprised to hear USADA had granted Cris Cyborg a retroactive TUE for her spironolactone use, since USADA’s official policy appears to rule it out. Her use was for a chronic (not acute/emergency) condition, and she had time to apply for a TUE, but didn’t. That would seem to rule her out of receiving a retroactive TUE under the rules on USADA’s site.

It turns out that the official USADA policy for TUEs doesn’t apply to UFC athletes. As part of USADA’s deal with the UFC, athletes who fight for the promotion don’t have to meet the same standards as other athletes overseen by USADA.------- that's also substantive change, they make a habit of it I see

Stop writing to me. If you have a problem with USADA and their rules, why don't you ask WADA about it.

3 June 2015
WADA commends UFC for enhanced anti-doping programme

The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) today commended the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) for its decision to adopt a robust new anti-doping programme. The rules are expressly modelled on key elements of the World Anti-Doping Code, and will be implemented by the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA).

“We are pleased that the UFC has announced its intent to install a significantly enhanced anti-doping programme, and that it will be undertaken by a very experienced National Anti-Doping Organisation in USADA” said WADA Director General, David Howman.

“In areas ranging from testing to transparency to the sport’s prohibited substances and methods, the UFC’s programme will follow a World Anti-Doping Code programme but for one exception relating to sanctions,” he said.

“The UFC programme will set the bar high for other professional leagues in North America, and will send a strong message that the rights of clean athletes should prevail,” added Howman.

or this statement by USADA:

“The most important thing to realize here is that any UFC athlete who applies for a retroactive TUE is still subject to the exact same TUE review process as everyone else. Most people probably don’t realize how genuinely comprehensive that process is. We’re talking about submitting extensive medical documentation and having it reviewed by an externalized committee of well-regarded medical experts from around the country. The burden that athletes have to meet in order to show that they are using certain substances for legitimate medical reasons is extremely high and goes far beyond just simply having a doctor’s note. You have to prove that there is a legitimate clinical need, that it is only being used to return the athlete to a normal state of health, and that there are no non-prohibited alternatives. These athletes are still being held to the highest standard.”

GIVE UP. IT'S OVER.

[koolkc107]

Oh look at this-------I was quite surprised to hear USADA had granted Cris Cyborg a retroactive TUE for her spironolactone use, since USADA’s official policy appears to rule it out. Her use was for a chronic (not acute/emergency) condition, and she had time to apply for a TUE, but didn’t. That would seem to rule her out of receiving a retroactive TUE under the rules on USADA’s site.

It turns out that the official USADA policy for TUEs doesn’t apply to UFC athletes. As part of USADA’s deal with the UFC, athletes who fight for the promotion don’t have to meet the same standards as other athletes overseen by USADA.------- that's also substantive change, they make a habit of it I see

FAIL

To those of you following this thread:

Here is yet one more example of how these douche-bags butthurts operate, using half-truths and flat out lies to make it seem like they have an argument when they actually don't.

What this idiot left out is that it was USADA THAT SUSPENDED CYBORG IN THE FIRST PLACE.

USADA conducted OUT OF COMPETITION testing (a random test!) in early Dec. 2016 and she popped for the banned substance. They suspended her and she was unavailable for UFC events in early 2017.

Cyborg then applied for a retroactive TUE and fit 2 of the 4 situations under which one can apply (remember, you only have to satisfy one)

USADA then conducted a thorough investigation and found that the medicine was indeed prescribed for a real ongoing illness and that the dosage was so low it did not afford her any advantage.

In other words...USADA DID IT'S JOB!

And, THE SYSTEM WORKED THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO!

CYBORG'S INCIDENT ONLY OFFERS MORE PROOF OF WHY USADA CONTINUES TO BE THE GOLD STANDARD WHEN IT COMES TO ANTI-DOPING TESTING.

But, you wouldn't know that if you listened to the idiot, Ship out.

To him, it's USADA helping someone cheat.

And BTW, Ship out STILL won't answer this:

DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY IN MAY 2015 WHEN KEVIN IOLE REPORTED THE IVs AND THE RETROACTIVE TUE?

[Shape up]

FAIL

To those of you following this thread:

Here is yet one more example of how these douche-bags butthurts operate, using half-truths and flat out lies to make it seem like they have an argument when they actually don't.

What this idiot left out is that it was USADA THAT SUSPENDED CYBORG IN THE FIRST PLACE.

USADA conducted OUT OF COMPETITION testing (a random test!) in early Dec. 2016 and she popped for the banned substance. They suspended her and she was unavailable for UFC events in early 2017.

Cyborg then applied for a retroactive TUE and fit 2 of the 4 situations under which one can apply (remember, you only have to satisfy one)

USADA then conducted a thorough investigation and found that the medicine was indeed prescribed for a real ongoing illness and that the dosage was so low it did not afford her any advantage.

In other words...USADA DID IT'S JOB!

And, THE SYSTEM WORKED THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO!

CYBORG'S INCIDENT ONLY OFFERS MORE PROOF OF WHY USADA CONTINUES TO BE THE GOLD STANDARD WHEN IT COMES TO ANTI-DOPING TESTING.

But, you wouldn't know that if you listened to the idiot, Ship out.

To him, it's USADA helping someone cheat.

And BTW, Ship out STILL won't answer this:

DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY IN MAY 2015 WHEN KEVIN IOLE REPORTED THE IVs AND THE RETROACTIVE TUE?

Gold standard in cheating , I agree

[koolkc107]

Gold standard in cheating , I agree

FAIL

No, I just showed how it was the opposite of cheating.

USADA suspended Cyborg when she tested positive- she lost opportunities to fight.

Then she went thru the TUE process and was exonerated.

That is how the system is supposed to work idiot.

One thing not in dispute is that you, Ship out, are the gold standard when it comes to morons.

Here's your sign...

DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY IN MAY 2015 WHEN KEVIN IOLE REPORTED THE IVs AND THE RETROACTIVE TUE?

[Shape up]

It turns out that the official USADA policy for TUEs doesn’t apply to UFC athletes. As part of USADA’s deal with the UFC, athletes who fight for the promotion don’t have to meet the same standards as other athletes overseen by USADA.--------- So is this the same as fluid, because he obviously didn't meet the criteria, usada was bought again

[travestyny]

It turns out that the official USADA policy for TUEs doesn’t apply to UFC athletes. As part of USADA’s deal with the UFC, athletes who fight for the promotion don’t have to meet the same standards as other athletes overseen by USADA.--------- So is this the same as fluid, because he obviously didn't meet the criteria, usada was bought again

“The most important thing to realize here is that any UFC athlete who applies for a retroactive TUE is still subject to the exact same TUE review process as everyone else. Most people probably don’t realize how genuinely comprehensive that process is. We’re talking about submitting extensive medical documentation and having it reviewed by an externalized committee of well-regarded medical experts from around the country. The burden that athletes have to meet in order to show that they are using certain substances for legitimate medical reasons is extremely high and goes far beyond just simply having a doctor’s note. You have to prove that there is a legitimate clinical need, that it is only being used to return the athlete to a normal state of health, and that there are no non-prohibited alternatives. These athletes are still being held to the highest standard.”

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/2/2...spironolactone

[Shape up]

“The most important thing to realize here is that any UFC athlete who applies for a retroactive TUE is still subject to the exact same TUE review process as everyone else. Most people probably don’t realize how genuinely comprehensive that process is. We’re talking about submitting extensive medical documentation and having it reviewed by an externalized committee of well-regarded medical experts from around the country. The burden that athletes have to meet in order to show that they are using certain substances for legitimate medical reasons is extremely high and goes far beyond just simply having a doctor’s note. You have to prove that there is a legitimate clinical need, that it is only being used to return the athlete to a normal state of health, and that there are no non-prohibited alternatives. These athletes are still being held to the highest standard.”

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/2/2...spironolactone

So was that a cherry pick, let's look at the previous paragraphs before what you posted nuffy------------------------The big problem with how the UFC’s policy is structured isn’t in the TUE committee, it’s in how much easier it is for a UFC athlete to qualify for a retroactive TUE review compared to other athletes USADA covers. Under the UFC policy, an athlete can go to a doctor, be prescribed a banned substance, and only apply for a TUE if they happen to get caught weeks or months later. That isn’t the case for other athletes; those athletes have to apply as soon as possible.

Let’s use clomiphene as an example — it’s a legitimate medication used for fertility issues, but it also happens to double testosterone levels. Now, there’s a chance USADA would grant your TUE for this, but there’s also a chance they won’t. If you’re an athlete, why on earth would you apply for the TUE ahead of time? Sure, you might get it, but then again you might not. If you just take it anyway, USADA might not test you in the right timeframe to notice it. If they do notice it, now you can apply for your TUE, and you have just as much chance of getting it as if you had applied beforehand.

You risk getting a test failure this way, but hey, at worst you get suspended for a year and potentially have to pay some costs for the application, but in return, you get two shots at getting away with doping.

This is a significant loophole - one specifically closed under the official WADA-based USADA policy that other athletes have to follow. For some reason, this loophole was re-opened as part of the UFC’s TUE policy, which was written by USADA and outside legal counsel, including people involved in writing the WADA code.----------this is very interesting don't you think, LOOPHOLE, CLOSED UNDER WADA, OPENED AGAIN BY USADA, compliant in the TIN STANDARD OF DRUG TESTING

[Shape up]

So now the question we have to ask is was fluid busted for a substance, apply for a TUE, granted a TUE so all of his testing results come back negative, seems a very real possibility given the fuc model of lack of drug testing

[travestyny]

So was that a cherry pick, let's look at the previous paragraphs before what you posted nuffy------------------------The big problem with how the UFC’s policy is structured isn’t in the TUE committee, it’s in how much easier it is for a UFC athlete to qualify for a retroactive TUE review compared to other athletes USADA covers. Under the UFC policy, an athlete can go to a doctor, be prescribed a banned substance, and only apply for a TUE if they happen to get caught weeks or months later. That isn’t the case for other athletes; those athletes have to apply as soon as possible.

Let’s use clomiphene as an example — it’s a legitimate medication used for fertility issues, but it also happens to double testosterone levels. Now, there’s a chance USADA would grant your TUE for this, but there’s also a chance they won’t. If you’re an athlete, why on earth would you apply for the TUE ahead of time? Sure, you might get it, but then again you might not. If you just take it anyway, USADA might not test you in the right timeframe to notice it. If they do notice it, now you can apply for your TUE, and you have just as much chance of getting it as if you had applied beforehand.

You risk getting a test failure this way, but hey, at worst you get suspended for a year and potentially have to pay some costs for the application, but in return, you get two shots at getting away with doping.

This is a significant loophole - one specifically closed under the official WADA-based USADA policy that other athletes have to follow. For some reason, this loophole was re-opened as part of the UFC’s TUE policy, which was written by USADA and outside legal counsel, including people involved in writing the WADA code.----------this is very interesting don't you think, LOOPHOLE, CLOSED UNDER WADA, OPENED AGAIN BY USADA, compliant in the TIN STANDARD OF DRUG TESTING

WHY DON’T YOU ASK WADA WHAT THEY THINK, CLOWN

3 June 2015
WADA commends UFC for enhanced anti-doping programme

The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) today commended the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) for its decision to adopt a robust new anti-doping programme. The rules are expressly modelled on key elements of the World Anti-Doping Code, and will be implemented by the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA).

“We are pleased that the UFC has announced its intent to install a significantly enhanced anti-doping programme, and that it will be undertaken by a very experienced National Anti-Doping Organisation in USADA” said WADA Director General, David Howman.

“In areas ranging from testing to transparency to the sport’s prohibited substances and methods, the UFC’s programme will follow a World Anti-Doping Code programme but for one exception relating to sanctions,” he said.

“The UFC programme will set the bar high for other professional leagues in North America, and will send a strong message that the rights of clean athletes should prevail,” added Howman.

[travestyny]

So now the question we have to ask is was fluid busted for a substance, apply for a TUE, granted a TUE so all of his testing results come back negative, seems a very real possibility given the fuc model of lack of drug testing

This is why you are the dumbest cvnt around. How the **** is a TUE for an IV going to protect someone from testing positive for an illegal substance you absolute idiot!!!

LOG THE **** OUT. YOU’VE EMBARRASSED YOURSELF ENOUGH!