Cotto Should Move to 147

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  • DLT
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    #21
    Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
    I mean, everyone knows Cotto is at a lower weight than hes suppose to be, it is normal today. Rivera was a weight lower, and so is about 60% of boxing, I'm still surpised, at supposed boxing experts being surpised. How do people think Mayweather came from Featherweight to Welterweight?
    Dude, there is a big difference. Floyd was never as big as Cotto pound for pound and you can say that about alot of guys. Alot of guys fight at lower weights but Cotto is much more massive then the normal guy doing that and cerain guys can hold it better then others.

    Like I said, if you think its ok then dont use it as a excuse if Cotto performs bad or gets dropped like you guys always seem to do. You cant have it both ways.

    Take Hatton for example. He blows up between fights but he still makes 140 much easier then Cotto and he seems to perform consistantly at a high level with no effects while Cotto looks drained and weak at times.

    You cant see the difference in that? Its not just about weight. Its about how you can handle the weight and thats my point about Cotto so stop trying to compare him to other guys who can do it because its not the same

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      #22
      Originally posted by Left2body
      I'm not sure when they moved the weight-in time but wasn't the Corrales vs Castillo weight-in time at 2pm local time? I'm not sure how rigid the weight-in time is either.
      That time was moved and agreed on by Chico because they knew of Castillo's problems and wanted him to make the weight and didnt care but Paulie is a smaller guy and hasnt been tested like Chico, so understanbly they are more worried. They even said that they were willing to go to 3pm just like Chico but they couldnt even get that

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        #23
        Originally posted by DLT
        That time was moved and agreed on by Chico because they knew of Castillo's problems and wanted him to make the weight and didnt care but Paulie is a smaller guy and hasnt been tested like Chico, so understanbly they are more worried. They even said that they were willing to go to 3pm just like Chico but they couldnt even get that
        I see your point in it being more helpful to Cotto but not sure if there is a huge difference between 28 and 24hours of recovery time. If there is any benefit to Cotto at all it will probably show up in the very late rounds with his conditioning and even then I doubt it would be of any real significance.

        I think the most important thing is actually making the weight. If Cotto actually makes the weight then all he can possibly put on his water weight by rehydrating himself. Its not like he is packing on extra muscle during those extra 4 hours.

        You must also consider that because he is struggling to make weight that perhaps they moved it up early to give Cotto because they might be anticipating that Cotto might not make the 1st weight-in and might need to be weighted twice.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Left2body
          I see your point in it being more helpful to Cotto but not sure if there is a huge difference between 28 and 24hours of recovery time. If there is any benefit to Cotto at all it will probably show up in the very late rounds with his conditioning and even then I doubt it would be of any real significance.

          I think the most important thing is actually making the weight. If Cotto actually makes the weight then all he can possibly put on his water weight by rehydrating himself. Its not like he is packing on extra muscle during those extra 4 hours.

          You must also consider that because he is struggling to make weight that perhaps they moved it up early to give Cotto because they might be anticipating that Cotto might not make the 1st weight-in and might need to be weighted twice.
          Yeah but like Paulie's manager said, its 4 more hours of putting on weight and more importantly 4 less hours of Cotto starving himself.

          On your last point I would say, so. Why should they be looking out for Cotto? He's already got the weight advantage so it's like there helping him more with that advantage. If he cant make it at the normal time then just let him still be trying to lose it at 5. I mean, whos fault is it? Its his so why should Paulie get penalized?

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            #25
            Originally posted by DLT
            Yeah but like Paulie's manager said, its 4 more hours of putting on weight and more importantly 4 less hours of Cotto starving himself.

            On your last point I would say, so. Why should they be looking out for Cotto? He's already got the weight advantage so it's like there helping him more with that advantage. If he cant make it at the normal time then just let him still be trying to lose it at 5. I mean, whos fault is it? Its his so why should Paulie get penalized?
            I'm not arguing that it would benefit Cotto, I just dont think it makes a HUGE difference. But then again I've never really tracked the slight difference in weight-in times before. I've competed in wrestling and there weight-ins are mostly done an hour or so before the match (in a meet) and could be as much as 4 hours before your first match if its a tournament depending on your draw.

            What I do know is that at times when I could get offically weighted-in in the morning of a match, it did make a huge difference but then again there is a huge difference in time to rehydrate (8-10 hours as opposed to 1-2 hours)

            I'm also against this whole weight advantage thing that everyone complains about. Perhaps its due to my wrestling background and struggling to make my lowest possible weight while still maintaining my conditioning and strenght. I have no sympathy for guys that didn't dedicate themselves as much as me and who I knew should've been a division below me. My thoughts are that if you think a guy has a weight advantage then perhaps your in the wrong weight division and perhaps you should try and cut more wieght in order to reach a lower weight class. The brutal truth of the sport is that Cotto is not an anomaly, and that there are many fighters that will come up as much as 2 divisions on fight night above there original weight-in, Hatton, Corrales, Castillo, Margarito, Morales, Gatti, Mayorga, Arce all names just off the top of my head.

            Paulie and others have the same opportunity to cut weight as others due.

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