Comments Thread For: Terence Crawford is The BWAA's Pound-For-Pound Number 1

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  • jjsmyth87
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    #31
    I understand that how dominant a fighter is should be factored but i think resume should be a huge factor as well and i don't see how mikey garcia jumped all the way to 6 after beating broner who has got beat every time hes stepped up. Mikey only had a couple fights in the last few years. Crawford would have knocked broner clean out thats the difference.

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    • Ajvar
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      #32
      Originally posted by Scopedog
      I think that Rigondeaux is listed too high and I don't think Kovalev should be on there. If back-to-back losses including a stoppage are enough to oust Gonzalez from the list then the same should go for him.
      Kovalev lose to #1P4P while Chockolatito's loses were upsets. Also first Kovalevs loss was very controversial... 2nd kinda too.

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      • Mr.Fantastic
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        #33
        Overrated. Besides the unification against ok guys in a weak division, he really hasn't done much compared to others on the list.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
          Overrated. Besides the unification against ok guys in a weak division, he really hasn't done much compared to others on the list.
          Lineal champ in 2 weight classes. 1st undisputed champ since 2005.

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          • Mr.Fantastic
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            #35
            Originally posted by Pigeons
            Lineal champ in 2 weight classes. 1st undisputed champ since 2005.
            By beating which killers? I'm not saying he's not good. He has the potential to be great and I hope he does but I don't see him being the P4P best in the world yet. Maybe you guys are into the hype but I don't see it.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
              By beating which killers? I'm not saying he's not good. He has the potential to be great and I hope he does but I don't see him being the P4P best in the world yet. Maybe you guys are into the hype but I don't see it.
              I'll trust the guys behind TBRB and BWAA but thanks for your opinion.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Pigeons
                I'll trust the guys behind TBRB and BWAA but thanks for your opinion.
                This comment will come to bite you in the ass one day. I'm going to bookmark it. Make sure you don't delete it.

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                • HarvardBlue
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                  #38
                  I think they got it right with Crawford as No. 1. Anyone from 2-10 is debatable. I do think Kovalev should be out of top 10. If him and Ward split the 2 matches (officially), I wouldn't mind but he lost twice and the second one was a TKO (officially). I think he's getting the benefit of the doubt with such a high ranking.

                  The P4P picture is not really clear yet because no one has stood out from the pack but Crawford is the logical choice right now.

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                  • The D3vil
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                    #39
                    Yeah, this is about how I have it.

                    You can find flaws with any of these guys.

                    Loma has a loss already and only has 10 fights.

                    Crawford's resume isn't that great

                    Canelo has about 3 or 4 gift decisions.

                    Kovalev just lost 2 in a row

                    Rigondeaux is mostly inactive

                    Thurman doesn't have a great resume

                    GGG is declining

                    There's not real no.1 in boxing, so Crawford's the safest pick.

                    He's been lineal champ in 2 divisions, he's undefeated in over 30 fights, and is the unified champ @ 140

                    I don't see how you can really argue against him with those conditions.

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                    • chrisJS
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                      Walters hadn't fought in a year and who did Russel Jr beat before he lost to Loma?

                      Bud has more wins than that and Bud hasnt lost. Loma won't get points for fighting a man moving up to fight him and Loma has lost and hasnt gained revenge.
                      I've heard you big up Crawford's win over Gamboa.

                      So answer the following questions -

                      Why is Walter's 11 months of inactivity a factor but Gamboa's 12 months of inactivity a non factor? I believe 12 months is more than 11 thus more rust collected.

                      Why is Rigo moving up in weight a factor when Gamboa moving up in weight a non-factor? Crawford was a huge lightweight fighting an average sized featherweight who's also not in Rigo's league as a fighter.

                      Who did Indongo beat all that special? Is he really a better fighter than Russell? If so, why did you (and don't act like you didn't) pick Russell to beat Loma?

                      Also, Postol was inactive 10 months coming into Crawford fight. Is 10 months that much different than 11 months? Walters also had a better win (Donaire) than Postol (Mattheyse).

                      Can you answer these questions or just admit that you have a major bias? I'm assuming there's a bias since obviously standards are different for different fighters.
                      Last edited by chrisJS; 10-04-2017, 02:34 PM.

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