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  • #71
    To remove all doubt...knock him out.

    Canelo got all the Judges in his pocket in Vegas.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by bluemax View Post
      I've watched the fight three times and honestly I saw Golovkin winning an easy decision. Too much corruption even in the media who want a big money rematch so bad that they are changing the perception of the first fight. How in the world can anyone but a Canelo nut hugger score enough rounds for Canelo to make it "close"? Canelo had a few minutes in a few rounds and thats it! He ran and covered up almost the whole fight!! Even the corrupt judges who kept it close,(Byrd was just totally bought or incompetent) Look at the scoring and watch the round they gave to Canelo, what a stretch. Surviving a round doesn't win it!
      I share the same thoughts found it funny that nelo said before the fight he was training for the knockout yet fought like he was an albino version of lara

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
        I saw ggg throw about 75 punches in that round and land anywhere from 17-20 punches and none were hard. All soft touches mostly jabs... saw Canelo throw about 35 punches and land about the same amt... with Canelo landing to the body and having a couple hard ones land. Made ggg miss 50+ times and had the better cleaner shots and higher percentage. Idk if thats clear ggg round.
        As i've said in other posts, boxing fans will see what they want to see. One minute they'll say if it was equal in strikes then it falls off to whom was the aggressor when it suits them, when it doesn't suit them it'll turn into the land percentage if that suits them. Remove each side from the equation and find a fighter who hates them equally and you'll find the right answer. I think the public perception of who won this fight overall is quite telling, haven't seen such a lopsided siding with one fighter since Pacquaio vs Bradley 1.

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        • #74
          whats the point? Whos to say the robbery wont be even worse this time and canelo gets the win? Thats probs been de la hoyas plan all along, get a draw then a rematch for even more money with canelo getting the decision whatever happens.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Corelone View Post
            Mexican style would be planning to eliminate the judges, not replacing them with friendly ones.




            If Ward was making those excuses, what would people say?

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            • #76
              Originally posted by bluemax View Post
              I've watched the fight three times and honestly I saw Golovkin winning an easy decision. Too much corruption even in the media who want a big money rematch so bad that they are changing the perception of the first fight. How in the world can anyone but a Canelo nut hugger score enough rounds for Canelo to make it "close"? Canelo had a few minutes in a few rounds and thats it! He ran and covered up almost the whole fight!! Even the corrupt judges who kept it close,(Byrd was just totally bought or incompetent) Look at the scoring and watch the round they gave to Canelo, what a stretch. Surviving a round doesn't win it!

              nobody is going to read past the bold man

              the only thing that is " easy ".... was you writing that stuff

              that was easy

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Oluminati View Post
                You can do this to so many peoples scorecards and other fights. Ppl love to highlight one aspect and ignore another. Trella got rd 7 wrong, but couldn't get another round wrong for Canelo? Boxing has a lot of subjectivity built into it which causes degrees of error. That is why we have 3 judges. So when fighters don't dominate rounds and there are several close rounds, you can almost always expect close scorecards with degrees of error of one to a couple rounds (excluding Byrd's cuz she seemed to give every close round to one fighter, which infers bias).

                I think you missed the point

                so, now Trella was wrong also ?

                so..... the only guy who did get it right, is the guy who awarded the fight to Golovkin by ONE point?

                or, was he wrong as well ?

                all I said was..... that fight was close as hell, and extremely difficult to score..... so not sure if the words "clearly" and "convincingly" can be correctly applied to that fight

                the judge who favored Golovkin saw nothing clear, or convincing

                you made a number of reasons/excuses in that short post..... because nothing was clear or convincing

                all of the " Golovkin won easy " people..... are no different than Adelaide Byrd, who got it wrong

                btw, Byrd scored the way she did because she favors the boxer in those matchups..... unless the pressure fighter/stalker is able to catch him and land something meaningful..... as do I, and most old school observers

                she saw Canelo did his thing, more effectively than she saw Golovkin do his thing

                I don't think she gave Golovkin enough credit..... but Golovkin's problem is that he was outboxed and largely ineffective for long stretches in that fight

                a draw/rematch is the best result

                against an A-side superstar, in Vegas..... Golovkin was EXTREMELY lucky to keep his titles

                there have been MUCH worse decisions

                the guys who are wailing and lamenting..... are ignoring the fact that Golovkin FAILED to get the result he wanted, and was largely ineffective for the most part
                Last edited by aboutfkntime; 10-03-2017, 03:27 PM.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by turnedup View Post
                  As i've said in other posts, boxing fans will see what they want to see. One minute they'll say if it was equal in strikes then it falls off to whom was the aggressor when it suits them, when it doesn't suit them it'll turn into the land percentage if that suits them. Remove each side from the equation and find a fighter who hates them equally and you'll find the right answer. I think the public perception of who won this fight overall is quite telling, haven't seen such a lopsided siding with one fighter since Pacquaio vs Bradley 1.

                  I don't think that means a single thing

                  fan comments are almost 100% a popularity contest

                  which is nothing meaningful

                  people see what they want to see

                  very few keep it real

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                  • #79
                    I can't blame him.

                    Ginger wins 6 rounds against Trout and they give him 10. Ginger wins 2 rounds against Floyd and they give him 6. Ginger wins 5 rounds against Lara and they give him 9. Ginger wins 8 rounds versus Cotto and they give him 11.

                    Ginger wins 4 rounds against GGG and they give him 10.

                    If Ginger had been the least bit competitive against Floyd, Floyd would not officially be undefeated.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Metho_4u View Post
                      I thought the draw was perfectly plausible, Canelo landed the cleaner, more eye catching shots. Golivkin missed 500 punches so Canelo showed much better defense as well. Golivkin stayed consistent, but pawed with the jab too much and landed very few clean punches. I don't care what anyone says, you cannot simply use a jab and miss power shots all night to win a fight, just doesn't happen.
                      GGGs jab had more power than Canelos power shots! Kept backing Canelo up with them as GGG walked thru Canelos so called power!

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