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3G is slipping. He's begging, crying, making excuses, all that. He lost some confidence somewhere. Even if he doesn't think he can KO Canelo, why let everybody know? Mexican style would be planning to eliminate the judges, not replacing them with friendly ones.
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Funny how that idiot says GGG won and than says Moretti´s scorecard was correct.....a win by one point....that means it was very close and a draw or even a win by Canelo was OK. Canelo proved his critics wrong and Super GGG couldn´t hurt him even though he was the bigger man. Hey GGG if you are so tough why don´t you challenge Zurdo Ramirez???
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I really don't get so called boxing fans these days. I may be old, but here's my personal opinion since so called forum gurus change their standards like they change shirts.
The judging was bad, but the outcome was correct. The first 6 rounds where split 3-3 and after that GGG spanked Canelo till the end of the 9th, but Canelo got the last 3. When GGG said that Mexican style comment at the end of the fight, he was basically saying Canelo needed to to give him (GGG) a chance to land because he (GGG) was not as technically proficient. That's just plain sad! GGG dominated and had Canelo on the ropes for how many rounds in the middle of the fight, but backed off because he feared the counter even though GGG has a granite chin. He can cry foul all he wants, but his skills let him down not the judges. Yes, Byrd's card was a joke, but so are GGG's excuses. After all those years as an amateur and all these pro fights, the guy can't neutralize or adapt to movement and a solid defense? Frazier learned, Tyson learned and all top tier boxers do so why can't GGG. He has to beg for the other guy to become one dimensional or stand still so he can have a chance to land clean shots? This is the same guy that called out Mayweather and now that he realizes that his skills didn't fare well against top tier fighters so he's making excuses??!
Now for those saying Canelo ran, look at both fighters faces at the end of the fight, did GGG repeatedly run into the ref chasing Canelo or was that damage as a result of clean punches? Last i checked defense was a skill required in boxing just like in most sports except maybe golf and the sort. Remember the Phoenix Suns and their run and gun offense with no defense? How many rings did that get them? Stop making excuses for GGG, this isn't hobo box car fighting! Need i remind you of Magomed Abdusalamov? That fight against Perez is exactly what you guys want to happen over and over in boxing until the sport gets outlawed? If you don't appreciate skill then do not watch! The sport will survive with or without you. They said boxing was dead after the The Ultimate Fighter season 1, but Dana White swallowed his words after he smelled that Mayweather money and now he's scared that his fighters will switch to boxing. My deepest, respect to Magomed and his family, but see what happens when you do not master all aspects of the sport.
GGG can cry for an immediate rematch because he's in it for the money and doesn't want to risk becoming another Kovalev. Canelo was a joke to me until this fight, but its time to give him some respect. GGG can face Jacobs again if he's all that and Canelo can face Lara. 2 rematches against whom both guys looked bad.
GGG did lots of talking, hurting heavy weights in sparing being able to go to 168, but when he had the option to face Ward the excuse was that there was not enough money. I'm quoting an article from this very website dated Mon May 18, 2015. What will be the excuse not to face Jacobs or the mandatory Charlo, money again, just like Mayweather was a good idea at 154 and Canelo wasn't and all that was said in the same year. This smells just like Kovalev not wanting to face that joke Stevenson. Smells like fear to me plain and simple. GGG can keep trying to goad Canelo in becoming one dimensional to have a better chance and play casual fans, but that won't fly with knowledgeable fans at all. Instead of saying Mexican style, just say please give me a chance! Marco Antonio Barrera fought Tapia and Prince Naseem using all skills, offense and defense, that's Mexican style!
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Originally posted by StudentOfDaGameI'll probably be the only person signing a petition for Adelaide Byrd not to get fired. I can't criticise her when her scorecard was a few off mine.
I was the same poster that had Srisaket Sor Rungvisais back to the death after Gonzalez. The same poster that was confused as **** with compubox. I think it's a witch hunt personally. She's a easy scapegoat because she's a.... She.
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Originally posted by Since1976 View PostI really don't get so called boxing fans these days. I may be old, but here's my personal opinion since so called forum gurus change their standards like they change shirts.
The judging was bad, but the outcome was correct. The first 6 rounds where split 3-3 and after that GGG spanked Canelo till the end of the 9th, but Canelo got the last 3. When GGG said that Mexican style comment at the end of the fight, he was basically saying Canelo needed to to give him (GGG) a chance to land because he (GGG) was not as technically proficient. That's just plain sad! GGG dominated and had Canelo on the ropes for how many rounds in the middle of the fight, but backed off because he feared the counter even though GGG has a granite chin. He can cry foul all he wants, but his skills let him down not the judges. Yes, Byrd's card was a joke, but so are GGG's excuses. After all those years as an amateur and all these pro fights, the guy can't neutralize or adapt to movement and a solid defense? Frazier learned, Tyson learned and all top tier boxers do so why can't GGG. He has to beg for the other guy to become one dimensional or stand still so he can have a chance to land clean shots? This is the same guy that called out Mayweather and now that he realizes that his skills didn't fare well against top tier fighters so he's making excuses??!
Now for those saying Canelo ran, look at both fighters faces at the end of the fight, did GGG repeatedly run into the ref chasing Canelo or was that damage as a result of clean punches? Last i checked defense was a skill required in boxing just like in most sports except maybe golf and the sort. Remember the Phoenix Suns and their run and gun offense with no defense? How many rings did that get them? Stop making excuses for GGG, this isn't hobo box car fighting! Need i remind you of Magomed Abdusalamov? That fight against Perez is exactly what you guys want to happen over and over in boxing until the sport gets outlawed? If you don't appreciate skill then do not watch! The sport will survive with or without you. They said boxing was dead after the The Ultimate Fighter season 1, but Dana White swallowed his words after he smelled that Mayweather money and now he's scared that his fighters will switch to boxing. My deepest, respect to Magomed and his family, but see what happens when you do not master all aspects of the sport.
GGG can cry for an immediate rematch because he's in it for the money and doesn't want to risk becoming another Kovalev. Canelo was a joke to me until this fight, but its time to give him some respect. GGG can face Jacobs again if he's all that and Canelo can face Lara. 2 rematches against whom both guys looked bad.
GGG did lots of talking, hurting heavy weights in sparing being able to go to 168, but when he had the option to face Ward the excuse was that there was not enough money. I'm quoting an article from this very website dated Mon May 18, 2015. What will be the excuse not to face Jacobs or the mandatory Charlo, money again, just like Mayweather was a good idea at 154 and Canelo wasn't and all that was said in the same year. This smells just like Kovalev not wanting to face that joke Stevenson. Smells like fear to me plain and simple. GGG can keep trying to goad Canelo in becoming one dimensional to have a better chance and play casual fans, but that won't fly with knowledgeable fans at all. Instead of saying Mexican style, just say please give me a chance! Marco Antonio Barrera fought Tapia and Prince Naseem using all skills, offense and defense, that's Mexican style!
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Originally posted by Metho_4u View PostI thought the draw was perfectly plausible, Canelo landed the cleaner, more eye catching shots. Golivkin missed 500 punches so Canelo showed much better defense as well. Golivkin stayed consistent, but pawed with the jab too much and landed very few clean punches. I don't care what anyone says, you cannot simply use a jab and miss power shots all night to win a fight, just doesn't happen.
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This was a very close fight! The only hypocrisy is that when Lara was using movement and making Canelo miss, Canelo felt he won easily. Now that he was the "boxer" and not the "aggressor," he feels he should've gotten the decision! I have no problem with the draw!
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