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  • DuckAdonis
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    #11
    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
    Any REAL boxing fan should be pissed at Floyd's cheating and hypocrisy. You haters accuse other fighters of cheating all the time. While praising Floyd for "cleaning up boxing", which is the furthest thing from reality. You gamed the system and duped you casuals into thinking he was doing something good for the sport of boxing.

    I never seen him cheat ? When did he ever break any of the rules ??

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    • b00g13man
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      #12
      #FloydRuinsLives

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      • GhostofDempsey
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        #13
        Originally posted by b00g13man
        #FloydRuinsLives
        No, just the sport.

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        • Goldie
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          #14
          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
          No, just the sport.
          Threads like these are delicious, please keep them coming. Just knowing that Floyd has you people still butt-hurt just makes my day. Tell us more why Floyd makes you mad.

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          • GhostofDempsey
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            #15
            Originally posted by Goldie
            Threads like these are delicious, please keep them coming. Just knowing that Floyd has you people still butt-hurt just makes my day. Tell us more why Floyd makes you mad.
            For one thing, he has fans such as yourself who wallow in ignorance and worship him unconditionally.

            It is interesting that none of his fans who have come to his rescue on this thread have got an answer for why WBC didn't mandate VADA testing for the May/Mac fight. How Floyd continues to get away with special treatment from WBC and USADA.

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            • Goldie
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              #16
              Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
              For one thing, he has fans such as yourself who wallow in ignorance and worship him unconditionally.

              It is interesting that none of his fans who have come to his rescue on this thread have got an answer for why WBC didn't mandate VADA testing for the May/Mac fight. How Floyd continues to get away with special treatment from WBC and USADA.
              I don't worship Floyd and I have issues with Floyd the man that I've spoken on in other settings. When it comes to this setting though, I see the hate that y'all have for Floyd for what it is. The dislike and outright contempt for Floyd here is all about him being a certain kind of black man. That's why I relish in the haters havin to live with him being undefeated 50-0 TBE. You can say whatever but you can't change the 50-0 and his status as the head and shoulders best fighter of his generation.

              As far as your testing angle, what do you expect people to say? That your argument here proves that Floyd is a cheater and his career is a sham? This is why I take pleasure in your hate. Your not even being rational which is why your critiques are dismissed. If you weren't such an obvious hater maybe you'd be taken more seriously.

              I don't know why the WBC didn't mandate vada testing. I suspect that Floyd is more familiar and comfortable with the usda testing and WBC didn't have the leverage to mandate anything else. What exactly is the point here though? Do you think Floyd juiced for the fight? Do you think that he's ever juiced? What are you saying?

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              • koolkc107
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                #17
                I did answer it earlier but certain folks are allergic to the truth.

                I'll try again.

                Floyd already had a 7 year history with USADA that included an Athlete's Biological Passport (ABP).

                If Mayweather is "miles ahead of the cheating curve" as some of you comfort yourselves by believing, then him using VADA would be the sign he was trying to cheat, since it would be the first time with them and they would be EASIER to fool than USADA since VADA would have NO BASELINE REFERENCES as USADA has.

                In addition, McGregor was ALSO very familiar to USADA since USADA conducts all of the UFC's year round testing.

                In conclusion, using USADA was the best way to ensure NO CHEATING took place, and I am sure that is exactly why the WBC had no problem with it.





                You're welcome.

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                • GhostofDempsey
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Goldie
                  I don't worship Floyd and I have issues with Floyd the man that I've spoken on in other settings. When it comes to this setting though, I see the hate that y'all have for Floyd for what it is. The dislike and outright contempt for Floyd here is all about him being a certain kind of black man. That's why I relish in the haters havin to live with him being undefeated 50-0 TBE. You can say whatever but you can't change the 50-0 and his status as the head and shoulders best fighter of his generation.

                  As far as your testing angle, what do you expect people to say? That your argument here proves that Floyd is a cheater and his career is a sham? This is why I take pleasure in your hate. Your not even being rational which is why your critiques are dismissed. If you weren't such an obvious hater maybe you'd be taken more seriously.

                  I don't know why the WBC didn't mandate vada testing. I suspect that Floyd is more familiar and comfortable with the usda testing and WBC didn't have the leverage to mandate anything else. What exactly is the point here though? Do you think Floyd juiced for the fight? Do you think that he's ever juiced? What are you saying?
                  You lost me as soon as you said "black man"...which I knew was coming eventually. Play the race card and deflect the question, typical.

                  Originally posted by koolkc107
                  I did answer it earlier but certain folks are allergic to the truth.

                  I'll try again.

                  Floyd already had a 7 year history with USADA that included an Athlete's Biological Passport (ABP).

                  If Mayweather is "miles ahead of the cheating curve" as some of you comfort yourselves by believing, then him using VADA would be the sign he was trying to cheat, since it would be the first time with them and they would be EASIER to fool than USADA since VADA would have NO BASELINE REFERENCES as USADA has.

                  In addition, McGregor was ALSO very familiar to USADA since USADA conducts all of the UFC's year round testing.

                  In conclusion, using USADA was the best way to ensure NO CHEATING took place, and I am sure that is exactly why the WBC had no problem with it.





                  You're welcome.
                  That is about the most ridiculous excuse ever, worse than the race card. All double-talk nonsense. Truth is, Floyd partnered up with USADA and received special treatment.

                  Now, you still haven't answered why the WBC didn't insist on VADA testing for Floyd when they insist that is their chosen testing protocol. No VADA for May/Berto or May/Mac. VADA for everyone else though.

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                  • Goldie
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                    You lost me as soon as you said "black man"...which I knew was coming eventually. Play the race card and deflect the question, typical.
                    Yea you're one of these cowards who doesn't like to deal with the issue of race directly because you're so deceptive and dishonest in relation lol. Typical. People are hip to the game. Terms like "race card" are racist in and of themselves. Downplaying and ignoring race just perpetuates racism.

                    You don't want a conversation, you're trying to antagonize.

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                    • koolkc107
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                      #20
                      LMAO!!!!

                      I gave a very specific, very logical explanation.

                      Both men have history with USADA, not VADA.

                      It made zero sense to have VADA do it when USADA would do the same tests AND had a history of testing to refer to that VADA did not.

                      What part of that escapes you?

                      Read this too.

                      FLOYD MAYWEATHER and Conor McGregor have both been tested for banned substances the same amount of times in the lead up to their August 26 clash, according to the US Anti-Doping Agency (USADA).

                      UFC star McGregor will make his professional boxing debut against Mayweather in Las Vegas, and after the fight was confirmed, USADA announced in July that both men would undergo ‘robust’ testing.

                      USADA also confirmed that there would be no limit to the amount of times each fighter could be tested, and that these tests would be no-advance notice and round the clock. So far, both men have been tested 12 times since July.

                      The Irishman is actually a part of two separate USADA testing groups – one for mixed martial artists and one for professional boxers. He has been tested twice as a part of the MMA group and 10 in the professional boxing group. He was added to the boxing group once the Mayweather fight was confirmed. Prior to this, he was tested three times this year in the MMA group.

                      Mayweather is being tested for the first time since 2015, when he retired after beating Manny Pacquiao and Andre Berto. He was tested a total of 34 times in that year. The figures come from USADA’s website, which gives an update history of testing for each athlete signed up to their program.

                      USADA’s program is in line with the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) code and requires both fighters to keep USADA informed daily of their whereabouts, to facilitate the random tests.

                      USADA’s figures do not include tests from other agencies or programs, though no other such testing was confirmed for this fight.

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