The WBC, VADA testing, and Mayweather

[Ray*]

World Anti-Doping Agency...Olympic and Boxing testing agency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Anti-Doping_Agency

I don't remember the rates....just that at the time of Mayweather-Pac reading that USASA is hired by and paid for by Mayweather Promotions for testing...and that Floyd elected to pay them double the rate.

WADA is a world agency. They govern/affiliated with every other countries agency (UKAD for us here and USADA for Americans or RUSADA for the Russians. And if Mayweather promotions are paying them double their rate for his fight with Pac to be tested what is the issue there? Along as they are doing their jobs then what’s the issue?

[jaded]

You say you "don't remember" which would imply at some point you knew what "WADA rates" are. Interesting.



Also, it's well documented USADA was paid 100k for both Floyd and Pac.

According to your statements, "normal" WADA rates should be 50k per fight.


But of course.... you don't remember.... you just know it's "double the normal WADA rate".


Smh.


Seems to me you're talking out your ass.

Shut up. It was 2 1/2 years ago. I can't find the exact article but a quick search...

USADA received an up-front payment of $150,000 to do the testing for Mayweather vs. Pacquiao.

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/ez3jvk/report-shows-mayweather-received-banned-iv-before-pacquiao-bout

[jaded]

WADA is a world agency. They govern/affiliated with every other countries agency (UKAD for us here and USADA for Americans or RUSADA for the Russians. And if Mayweather promotions are paying them double their rate for his fight with Pac to be tested what is the issue there? Along as they are doing their jobs then what’s the issue?

Because it's a conflict of interest.

[Jsmooth9876]

WADA is a world agency. They govern/affiliated with every other countries agency (UKAD for us here and USADA for Americans or RUSADA for the Russians. And if Mayweather promotions are paying them double their rate for his fight with Pac to be tested what is the issue there? Along as they are doing their jobs then what’s the issue?

Yeah it's perfectly normal to pay an agency that you just work with on a professional level, twice or more the price of a job out of the good of your heart.

Or.....

[Ray*]

Because it's a conflict of interest.

Yeah it's perfectly normal to pay an agency that you just work with on a professional level, twice or more the price of a job out of the good of your heart.

Or.....

I don't agree with paying them double what their price is at all. But when it comes to Mayweather things can be exaggerated. How did you know USADA were paid double?

That question can be asked (USADA) directly by american citizens under the freedom of information act.

[jaded]

I don't agree with paying them double what their price is at all. But when it comes to Mayweather things can be exaggerated. How did you know USADA were paid double?

That question can be asked (USADA) directly by american citizens under the freedom of information act.

I saw it in an article 2 1/2 years ago...I tried to find it but couldn't. You can take me at my word or not if you think I need to makes things like this up...I really don't care.

Found this though...

And let’s not forget; USADA is hired by and contracts with the fighters it’s supposed to be testing. Indeed, there are times when it seems as though USADA collects drug-testing payments the way boxing’s world sanctioning organizations collect sanctioning fees.

The cost of USADA’s testing that we know of has ranged from $36,000 for Andy Lee vs. Peter Quillin to $150,000 for Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao.

take the time to read the whole Hauser article

http://www.boxnation.com/boxing-news/was-floyd-mayweather-really-dehydrated-the-fallout-from-can-boxing-trust-usada/

And let’s not forget; USADA is hired by and contracts with the fighters it’s supposed to be testing. Indeed, there are times when it seems as though USADA collects drug-testing payments the way boxing’s world sanctioning organizations collect sanctioning fees.

The cost of USADA’s testing that we know of has ranged from $36,000 for Andy Lee vs. Peter Quillin to $150,000 for Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao.

Does anyone see a problem here? A Major League Baseball player can’t choose the drug-testing agency that tests him and negotiate a fee with that agency. It would be laughable to suggest that New York Yankees star Alex Rodriguez (who was suspended for the entire 2014 season after being found in violation of Major League Baseball’s drug policy) could designate which agency tests him and then pay that agency out of his own pocket.

A National Football League player can’t say, “I don’t want this testing agency. They caught me using a banned substance last year.” But that’s precisely what happens in boxing. VADA (the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency) tested Andre Berto and Lamont Peterson, both of whom tested positive for the presence of prohibited performance enhancing drugs in their system. What happened next? Both fighters refused to test again with VADA and opted for USADA.

USADA allows Floyd Mayweather and some of the other boxers it tests to dictate when drug testing begins. If Olympic athletes could dictate the date on which drug testing began, world records for races from 100 meters to the marathon would be considerably lower than they are today.

How many U.S. Olympic athletes in the condition that Floyd Mayweather was in on May 1 have received IVs of 750 milliliters or more while a USADA doping control officer was present? How many U.S. Olympic athletes have been given a retroactive the****utic use exemption for a similar IV eighteen days after competing in their Olympic event?

And one more question. In responding to “Can Boxing Trust USADA?”, the United States Anti-Doping Agency issued a September 10 statement that read, “There are certainly those in the sport of professional boxing who appear committed to preventing an independent and comprehensive anti-doping program from being implemented in the sport, and who wish to advance an agenda that fails to put the interests of clean athletes before their own.”

I can think of several physical conditioners and fighters who might be against an independent and comprehensive anti-doping program. Who did USADA have in mind when it made that statement? If USADA is suggesting by innuendo that I’m on that list, I categorically reject that notion.

By and large, the people who are asking questions about the implementation of USADA’s drug testing program for boxing are the people who care about boxing the most.

Hours before Manny Pacquiao entered the ring to fight Floyd Mayweather, his request to be injected with Toradol (a legal substance) to ease the pain caused by a torn rotator cuff was denied by the Nevada State Athletic Commission because the request was not made in a timely manner. In explaining the NSAC’s decision, commission chairman Francisco Aguilar told the media, “There is a process. And when you try to screw with the process, it's not going to work for you.”

USADA and Mayweather appear to have screwed with the process. Let’s see if it works for them in the end.

As Winston Churchill once proclaimed, “The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. Ignorance may deride it. But in the end, there it is.”

[Ray*]

I saw it in an article 2 1/2 years ago...I tried to find it but couldn't. You can take me at my word or not if you think I need to makes things like this up...I really don't care.

Found this though...

And let’s not forget; USADA is hired by and contracts with the fighters it’s supposed to be testing. Indeed, there are times when it seems as though USADA collects drug-testing payments the way boxing’s world sanctioning organizations collect sanctioning fees.

The cost of USADA’s testing that we know of has ranged from $36,000 for Andy Lee vs. Peter Quillin to $150,000 for Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao.

take the time to read the whole Hauser article

http://www.boxnation.com/boxing-news/was-floyd-mayweather-really-dehydrated-the-fallout-from-can-boxing-trust-usada/

And let’s not forget; USADA is hired by and contracts with the fighters it’s supposed to be testing. Indeed, there are times when it seems as though USADA collects drug-testing payments the way boxing’s world sanctioning organizations collect sanctioning fees.

The cost of USADA’s testing that we know of has ranged from $36,000 for Andy Lee vs. Peter Quillin to $150,000 for Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao.

Does anyone see a problem here? A Major League Baseball player can’t choose the drug-testing agency that tests him and negotiate a fee with that agency. It would be laughable to suggest that New York Yankees star Alex Rodriguez (who was suspended for the entire 2014 season after being found in violation of Major League Baseball’s drug policy) could designate which agency tests him and then pay that agency out of his own pocket.

A National Football League player can’t say, “I don’t want this testing agency. They caught me using a banned substance last year.” But that’s precisely what happens in boxing. VADA (the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency) tested Andre Berto and Lamont Peterson, both of whom tested positive for the presence of prohibited performance enhancing drugs in their system. What happened next? Both fighters refused to test again with VADA and opted for USADA.

USADA allows Floyd Mayweather and some of the other boxers it tests to dictate when drug testing begins. If Olympic athletes could dictate the date on which drug testing began, world records for races from 100 meters to the marathon would be considerably lower than they are today.

How many U.S. Olympic athletes in the condition that Floyd Mayweather was in on May 1 have received IVs of 750 milliliters or more while a USADA doping control officer was present? How many U.S. Olympic athletes have been given a retroactive the****utic use exemption for a similar IV eighteen days after competing in their Olympic event?

And one more question. In responding to “Can Boxing Trust USADA?”, the United States Anti-Doping Agency issued a September 10 statement that read, “There are certainly those in the sport of professional boxing who appear committed to preventing an independent and comprehensive anti-doping program from being implemented in the sport, and who wish to advance an agenda that fails to put the interests of clean athletes before their own.”

I can think of several physical conditioners and fighters who might be against an independent and comprehensive anti-doping program. Who did USADA have in mind when it made that statement? If USADA is suggesting by innuendo that I’m on that list, I categorically reject that notion.

By and large, the people who are asking questions about the implementation of USADA’s drug testing program for boxing are the people who care about boxing the most.

Hours before Manny Pacquiao entered the ring to fight Floyd Mayweather, his request to be injected with Toradol (a legal substance) to ease the pain caused by a torn rotator cuff was denied by the Nevada State Athletic Commission because the request was not made in a timely manner. In explaining the NSAC’s decision, commission chairman Francisco Aguilar told the media, “There is a process. And when you try to screw with the process, it's not going to work for you.”

USADA and Mayweather appear to have screwed with the process. Let’s see if it works for them in the end.

As Winston Churchill once proclaimed, “The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. Ignorance may deride it. But in the end, there it is.”

Am not getting into the whole USADA allowing Mayweather to cheat thing, they are owe by the taxpayers and answerable to taxpayers.

And questions would have to be answered by them if there was something wrong from their ends.

Am not taking bias opinion from people who clearly hate the name Mayweather.

Am not here to defend USADA but if they are shady for one athlete in boxing then the US government needs to do something about it.

[Soda_Popinski]

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