Comments Thread For: Wilder-Ortiz: WBC Prez Explains Current Situation, Ruling Coming

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Idc whether the medication stuff is true or not but when you go for a piss test they ask you if you're taking any meds and you have to disclose it or else this happens...

[OmarRueben]

Fat slob Ortiz isn't beating Wilder no matter what fat slob takes

That round mound of jiggly jello slob Ortiz isn't beating Wilder no matter what that cheating old Cuban takes into his huge waste system. Ortiz cannot move so Wilder will be teeing off on that fat face and beachball head or Ortiz till that huge tub of goo falls and is counted out. Fact

[TinAgeOfBoxing]

The theory of drug testing is to create an uneven playing field from an even playing field. Drug testing is 100% guaranteed to never clean the sport and even testing experts and heads of agencies admit they miss 99% of users. The establishment loves testing because they can pick and choose who gets banned, testing is behind closed doors by one single lab nothing you can do about if they say you use. 1,000 times easier to rig than a boxing decision.

[billeau2]

I think what you are referring to is a human growth hormone, something quite different than a steroid. HGH can help you recover from some injuries, but from what I understand they are still able to give you an unfair advantage in power. Baseball pitchers used them to get extra velocity in pitches in the heyday of the steriods era and every one of them claimed it was to recover from an injury. If that is true, and I am trusting some medical people I know and am not an expert, they will absolutely cause boxers to throw harder punches with more power behind them. Force = mass X speed. If mass is constant but speed is unfairly increased, the result is still a medically altered ability to hurt someone.

Performance enhancing drugs, whatever class they may be, are becoming one of the issues we will have to come to terms with and which may be part of our progress. Its becoming harder to pull apart three separate circles of meaning called progress, healing and enhancement when it comes to these drugs. There is a point where these circles all overlap.

It does not take an expert to see that the technology to mask these drugs abounds...these drugs also help an older athlete heal faster depending on the drug, etc. I don't claim to know the answer either but I know when as issue threatens to overwhelm sensability. I don't know what Ortiz did either.

[billeau2]

The theory of drug testing is to create an uneven playing field from an even playing field. Drug testing is 100% guaranteed to never clean the sport and even testing experts and heads of agencies admit they miss 99% of users. The establishment loves testing because they can pick and choose who gets banned, testing is behind closed doors by one single lab nothing you can do about if they say you use. 1,000 times easier to rig than a boxing decision.

I think your in the right place regarding this debate. I agree with you, though I don't know the actual numbers..I suspect they are up there though.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

They just get TUEs, claiming they have medical conditions.

Russians hacked WADA and got their files. They were taking PEDs, but legally, loopholes in the system and they were exploiting them.

Russians leaked false info after their cheater Maria Sharapova got busted. Ironically the tried to cover up PEdvetkin dirty test also. Those Americans are just superior let’s face it. Cheating Europeans and Americans are still superior

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

I thought as much.

Don’t think next time. That’s where you messed up at.
50-0 all the PPV records. Deal with it crybaby

[JRB123]

Yeah...there's a thread with a 3 part I think instagram video with his Dr talking about him. I'd link it up but I'm too tired now and off to bed.

It's on Instagram via kingkongboxing. Just go to that page and you'll see the doctor talk about the pills that Ortiz was taking.

[sicko]

WBC it shouldn't take this long, make a ***ing decision already. This WBC/VADA Program needs to be revamped, seems very unorganized like they want to make rules as they go for guys who test positive for something!

[hhh1200]

He went to the ER...the DR puts him on a drug because he thinks it's the best one for him. He does not stop to check with VADA...that's not what he's trained to do.

ER Drs don't subscribe long term medications.