Why couldn't Canelo Alvarez beat Golovkin as convincingly as Pacquiao beat Margarito?

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  • BoxingTrav
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    #51
    Originally posted by WesternChamp
    Manny scarred marg for life, made him wear sun glasses everywhere he go lol. I dont know about you, but i rather take a ref stoppage than being scarred for life.

    Manny and shane is not the same size, shane was able to push marg around where as for manny, he beat marg based on speed.
    So the boogeyman got bullied and stopped by Shane when he was thought to have been indomitable.

    Manny beat him with speed after Shane took away his air on invincibility. And your conclusion was that his lost to Manny was worse for him? Ummmm....we'll have to agree to disagree

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      #52
      Originally posted by BoxingTrav
      So the boogeyman got bullied and stopped by Shane when he was thought to have been indomitable.

      Manny beat him with speed after Shane took away his air on invincibility. And your conclusion was that his lost to Manny was worse for him? Ummmm....we'll have to agree to disagree
      ref stoppage, dont act like shane slept him or something LOL. that's why i said i rather take a ref stoppage than getting scar for life. marg cant even go anywhere without his sun glasses. that eye bruised up quick as soon as he gets punched. are you really trying to argue with me that marg took more damage against shane??? serious bro??? LOL

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        #53
        Originally posted by Ganstaz003
        Manny Pacquiao started his career at flyweight. The same division as Roman Gonzalez. Whilst Shane Mosley was a natural welterweight. Do you realize the difference in someone as small as Manny Pacquiao beating someone as big as Margarito, compared to someone as big as Shane Mosley beating someone closer to his own size as Margarito?

        Manny Pacquiao as someone who started his career at flyweight, beating Antonio Margarito is more impressive than Shane Mosley, who started his career at lightweight beating Antonio Margarito. Has Shane Mosley ever beaten an opponent who is over 4 or more weight divisions above his starting weight division? That's exactly what Pacman did by beating Margarito.

        he had no business fighting in that weight because no other boxer in history moved up that much and succeeded as much as Pacquiao did. The fact that he was at such a disadvantage and still overcame the odds, is a testament to his greatness and qualities. That doesn't mean he wasn't at a HUUUUUGE disadvantage.

        Manny Pacquiao also defeated Miguel Cotto far more convincingly than Canelo Alvarez did. Pacman dropped cotto multiples times and stopped him. That was a younger and a fresher Cotto that Pacman destroyed. By your argument, Canelo Alvarez should've beaten Cotto as convincingly as Pacman defeated Margarito since Canelo had the luxury of fighting a man (Miguel Cotto) who was already destroyed at the hands of Manny Pacquiao. So why couldn't Canelo Alvarez demolish Cotto as or more convincingly compared to Pacquiao? Do you now realize why that excuse doesn't work, when you claim Canelo didn't have the luxury of facing a destroyed man like how Pacman had the luxury of facing Margarito? Since Canelo had the luxury of facing Cotto, who was a destroyed man from the beating he took from Pacquiao but Canelo still went life and death with him.
        Manny started Flyweight at 15? How much did Shane weigh at 15?

        Secondly I said it doesn't matter about who beat who worse. It's about getting The W. Folks were talking about how many beat Oscar and Ricky worse than Floyd did, but then Floyd beat Manny. It doesn't matter. It's about styles and gameplans.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Sp0rty Cr@ig
          Yeah because Canelo & Pacquiao are so similar. Lmao! Canelo is flat footed & has had problems with Stamina his entire career.

          Why the *** would he turn into Pacquiao for the GGG fight?
          When I compare the younger version of Pacquiao throwing combos, and then to Canelo right now, I just realize how inferior Canelo is compared to 2009-2010 Pacquiao in terms of utility and usage of combos.

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          • WesternChamp
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            #55
            Originally posted by BoxingTrav
            So the boogeyman got bullied and stopped by Shane when he was thought to have been indomitable.

            Manny beat him with speed after Shane took away his air on invincibility. And your conclusion was that his lost to Manny was worse for him? Ummmm....we'll have to agree to disagree
            bro?? LOL!! i mean just look at the pictures LOL!!



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              #56
              Originally posted by WesternChamp
              bro?? LOL!! i mean just look at the pictures LOL!!



              bro??? where you at? LOL

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                #57
                Originally posted by WesternChamp
                Manny scarred marg for life, made him wear sun glasses everywhere he go lol. I dont know about you, but i rather take a ref stoppage than being scarred for life.

                Manny and shane is not the same size, shane was able to push marg around where as for manny, he beat marg based on speed.
                Being that you're an armchair I understand your casual **** post. Fighters accept reality of the danger of what can happen to them. As much as I have dissed Margarito, I would never say what you said about a fighter. You lack character and you're a ****en armchair so I understand. ****en clown.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                  Being that you're an armchair I understand your casual **** post. Fighters accept reality of the danger of what can happen to them. As much as I have dissed Margarito, I would never say what you said about a fighter. You lack character and you're a ****en armchair so I understand. ****en clown.
                  wtf???? what did i say?

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                  • BoxingTrav
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by WesternChamp
                    bro?? LOL!! i mean just look at the pictures LOL!!



                    I saw the fight, pictures tell a thousand words, seeing it live tells a billion. I watch the fights my guy. I have been watching for 31 years.

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                    • WesternChamp
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by BoxingTrav
                      I saw the fight, pictures tell a thousand words, seeing it live tells a billion. I watch the fights my guy. I have been watching for 31 years.
                      the pictures were fake then? LOL! i watched the fight live too! your point? marg went into the fight being a mexican came out of the fight against pac looking like a chinese! LOL

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