Why couldn't Canelo Alvarez beat Golovkin as convincingly as Pacquiao beat Margarito?

[WesternChamp]

I saw the fight, pictures tell a thousand words, seeing it live tells a billion. I watch the fights my guy. I have been watching for 31 years.

bro!! i know we dont see eye to eye but how can you try to deny the damage? LOL

[BoxingTrav]

the pictures were fake then? LOL! i watched the fight live too! your point? marg went into the fight being a mexican came out of the fight against pac looking like a chinese! LOL

Manny tried to stop Margarito. He never broke his will. Shane stopped him and broke his will.

It's all perspective though!

And I never said Manny didn't beat him up. He clearly did. Shane was more impressive to me.

[WesternChamp]

So the boogeyman got bullied and stopped by Shane when he was thought to have been indomitable.

Manny beat him with speed after Shane took away his air on invincibility. And your conclusion was that his lost to Manny was worse for him? Ummmm....we'll have to agree to disagree

let me remind you, shane vs marg was at 147, marg came into the weigh in at 145 1/2!!! shane was 147!

pac vs marg was at 150!!
marg came into the weigh in at 150, pac 144.6!!!

and you wonder why shane was able to bullied marg around?

[WesternChamp]

Manny tried to stop Margarito. He never broke his will. Shane stopped him and broke his will.

It's all perspective though!

And I never said Manny didn't beat him up. He clearly did. Shane was more impressive to me.

see post #63

[WesternChamp]

Manny tried to stop Margarito. He never broke his will. Shane stopped him and broke his will.

It's all perspective though!

And I never said Manny didn't beat him up. He clearly did. Shane was more impressive to me.

i never said you didnt say manny didnt beat him up.

im talking about how you're trying to say shane did more damage to marg than pac did.

[WesternChamp]

Manny tried to stop Margarito. He never broke his will. Shane stopped him and broke his will.

It's all perspective though!

And I never said Manny didn't beat him up. He clearly did. Shane was more impressive to me.

this picture looks like a man who has given up.



marg went into the shane fight not with a clear head. he even said it in an interview. this is during the time his trainer got popped for the wraps!

[BoxingTrav]

i never said you didnt say manny didnt beat him up.

im talking about how you're trying to say shane did more damage to marg than pac did.

Break will > Break orbital IMHO. You disagree and that's fine.

[WesternChamp]

Manny tried to stop Margarito. He never broke his will. Shane stopped him and broke his will.

It's all perspective though!

And I never said Manny didn't beat him up. He clearly did. Shane was more impressive to me.

shane vs marg = 147

manny vs marg = 150

marg was 145 1/2 at the weigh in for shane

marg was 150 at the weigh in for pac

[WesternChamp]

Break will > Break orbital IMHO. You disagree and that's fine.

[j.razor]

Where's your evidence that Manny Pacquiao was cheating against Margarito and Canelo Alvarez wasn't cheating against Golovkin?

Or perhaps Manny Pacquiao became older and declined, which had nothing to do with PED?

If Lil G is just like Margarito, then why hasn't he been DECISIVELY beaten yet?

If you know how to read between the lines here you go in the 1st 47 seconds of the 1st video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQsHMN1B_bg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IXggInHDRs

Now for some reason after you get off the PED's people are never the same as they were WITH PED's. Football players get off of it then they end up with injuries. Remember Shawne Merriman?

Margarito got caught with **** in his wraps, was he the same after that?

Why are you bringing up Nelo? Cuz he beat lil g?