The myth about Arum keeping Pac away from floyd 09-10

[Metho_4u]

Did they ever build that stadium then?

I was wondering the same thing! Where is that fugger?

[Robbie Barrett]

took him years?? he fought floyd in 2013!!. LOL

he was mexico's best at that time. undefeated record, "i was born ready"!!! then got schooled 0-12, but yet he did 900k against cotto, against chavez jr 1mil, and now against ggg 1mil again. and the rematch will likely hit 1mil again LOL.

pac's ppv sales took a dive after marquez because look at who he fought??? rios??? algeiri??? bradley??? vargas??? but then look what happen when he was matched against floyd (a credible opponent)????

2013-2017 = 4 years.

Why do you think he fought on HBO after the Mayweather fight? If the loss didn't affect him wouldn't he have been on PPV? They had to build him back up.

[WesternChamp]

This is a false equivalence fallacy.

ODH and Bob have different business models relative to building a fighter. Canelo was much younger than Manny when he fought Floyd so there was more time for his career to be rebuilt after a loss.

What you believe IMO comes down to if you are honest about the boxer Floyd is.

If you are someone that calls Floyd "fraud" and makes threads that inferior fighters could beat him, pretend he was scared of Manny, avoid talking about the people that refused to fight him etc etc, then you will never admit what roach made clear.

However, if despite how you feel about him, you give him credit for his talent and gifts as a fighter, then its easy to see why Bob would avoid a fight with him.

stop it!! bob hypes pac up to have the full support from filipinos, oscar is doing the same with canelo!!! how is oscar building canelo up that is different from bob? how is oscar building canelo up that bob cant do with manny?

i havent made any threads about floyd being afraid of manny?

[Cinci Champ]

im not here to discuss blood testing. there's another thread for that. im here to exposed the lies that bob arum was keeping pac away because if pac loses to floyd then its gonna hurt his ppv buys.

so are u saying u dont think pacs value would of fell off if he got beat by floyd even tho a lot his rise to mainstream was on the back of being the hope to beat floyd and that floyd was scared etc? come on bro this comparison is so invalid

[WesternChamp]

2013-2017 = 4 years.

Why do you think he fought on HBO after the Mayweather fight? If the loss didn't affect him wouldn't he have been on PPV? They had to build him back up.

yeah 4 years?? that's years??? "they have to build him back up", how??? how did they build him back up? so after he lost to floyd, the mexicans stopped suporting him for 4 years??

canelo fought angulo after floyd and did 350k.

when canelo fought smith and did 300k, yall was on here saying that's decent nunbers considering the snooze fest in the floyd/pac fight that had turn off a lot of boxing fans from buying.

[j.razor]

im not here to discuss blood testing. there's another thread for that. im here to exposed the lies that bob arum was keeping pac away because if pac loses to floyd then its gonna hurt his ppv buys.

He was his cash cow & if he loses he wont be that cash cow.....Who wants to see a loser? You? Come on dude its common sense.

[McNulty]

Did they ever build that stadium then?

Now that we look back at that, sounds really ******ed.

The needles, the stadium, the socks, the testing, the split --- they really had an arsenal of excuses.

[WesternChamp]

so are u saying u dont think pacs value would of fell off if he got beat by floyd even tho a lot his rise to mainstream was on the back of being the hope to beat floyd and that floyd was scared etc? come on bro this comparison is so invalid

no, it will not take a dive if they fought early on in 2009-2010. why? because pac was still a beast then. a lost to floyd, he can bounce back by putting a beating on his next opponent and then chase for the rematch, remember this is still in 2009-2010 where floyd has no plan to retire yet.

his ppv sales took a dive after 2015 when losing to floyd because by then, he couldnt perform like how he used too. so the hype is gone since he wasnt beating on his opponents anymore.

if losing to floyd will hurt his ppv, then when marquez knocked him out silly in 2012, that should have ruin the super mega fight in 2015 right?

[WesternChamp]

He was his cash cow & if he loses he wont be that cash cow.....Who wants to see a loser? You? Come on dude its common sense.

canelo is oscar cash cow too. canelo lost to floyd in 2013, BUT just hit 1mil against ggg. why do decline in ppv?

[WesternChamp]

So what is your point man I keep seeing dumb people talk ****, why do you sit back and watch his fights instead of talking fart, how does it matter he still lost. WOW

bro, i cant even understand wtf you're trying to say here.