The myth about Arum keeping Pac away from floyd 09-10

[WesternChamp]

and it was on free tv. so wtf are you talking about?

im not saying that it was on ppv. im saying it was the type of opponents like horn, that's why his ppv took a dive.

[bluebeam]

that it was guys like horn that's why his ppv took a dive. you were saying he lost to floyd that's why his ppv decline. if he fought guys like canelo are you telling me its gonna flop too just because he lost to floyd already? LOL!

that's exactly what I'm saying.

Floyd vs canelo did 2.2
pacquiao vs canelo would do half of that.

and it's because Floyd beat both of them already. there is no prize at the end of the finish line in a pacquiao vs canelo fight.

[bluebeam]

was floyd a walking skeleton like oscar? you really brought oscar up and didnt think of this? LOL!! mutha fooking floyd looked just as big as canelo on fight night.

you said you never heard of a fighter losing weight after the weigh in and I named oscar in his pacquiao fight.


I didn't mention Floyd or canelo regarding weight

[bluebeam]

09-10 he was still a beast. if he lost to floyd during this time frame he could still bounce back. lets assume he fought floyd in 09 and lost. in 09 he fvked cotto up! 10 he ****ed magarito up! 11 he made shane his biiatch, also scored a knockdown. so during 09-11 he was still whooping on mofos! 12 he got knocked out by marquez, do i need to explain why he hasnt score a ko since then?

he hasn't scored a knockout since 2009. it's 2017

he walked away from a mayweather fight that was scheduled for spring 2010. over random testing. he has no knockouts since he was accused of rousing.

these are facts. not some **** I'm making up. was pacquiao on roids? maybe, maybe not. but he has no knockouts since he was accused. that's a fact. not speculation.


and he fought bums along the way so don't tell me he was fighting elite guys so he wasn't getting knockouts. algeiri,rios,horn,Vargas.

facts

[bluebeam]

it dont matter. im asking if he fought them is it gonna flop? since you said his ppv decline since he lost to floyd (im trying to tell you that it decline because of his choices of opponents) dont try to use that to get out of it.

and i never try to compare his ppv to floyd so once again your trying to spin it. all im asking is will the ppv flop against canelo and conor. you wont answer this and we both know why already. of course his ppv is gonna flop when he's fighting vargas, algieri,etc.

what's a flop to you in a Pac vs canelo fight?

to me 1 million buys is a flop in a canelo vs pacquiao fight. and thats what I think that fight would do at this point.

pre mayweather- Pac vs canelo would do close to 2 million buys.

post mayweather-pac vs canelo 1 million buys

just my opinion tho.

[Soda_Popinski]

Let's put this lame excuse to rest. When debating why the fight didnt happen the first time, the floyd fans like to use the excuse that bob arum was keeping manny away from floyd because bob knows that when manny loses to floyd then its gonna hurt his future earning potential since manny is bob's cash cow.

Well, canelo fought floyd way early on in his career and took a major schooling from floyd but yet this didnt hurt his ppv sales at all. in fact, he just did over $1mil against ggg. so what happen to losing to floyd will lower your ppv sales? are you gonna tell me that 2009-2010 manny is not as popular as canelo?

Fifty and OH

[WesternChamp]

that's exactly what I'm saying.

Floyd vs canelo did 2.2
pacquiao vs canelo would do half of that.

and it's because Floyd beat both of them already. there is no prize at the end of the finish line in a pacquiao vs canelo fight.

aint nobody asking if it'll do 2.2 or not. will it flop or not since you said pac's ppv decline because of losing to floyd. stop bringing up what floyd did to try and spin it. i see where this is going. no respect for a poster like you.

[WesternChamp]

what's a flop to you in a Pac vs canelo fight?

to me 1 million buys is a flop in a canelo vs pacquiao fight. and thats what I think that fight would do at this point.

pre mayweather- Pac vs canelo would do close to 2 million buys.

post mayweather-pac vs canelo 1 million buys

just my opinion tho.

gtfho. hahah!!! 1mil buy is a flop LOL!!

[WesternChamp]

he hasn't scored a knockout since 2009. it's 2017

he walked away from a mayweather fight that was scheduled for spring 2010. over random testing. he has no knockouts since he was accused of rousing.

these are facts. not some **** I'm making up. was pacquiao on roids? maybe, maybe not. but he has no knockouts since he was accused. that's a fact. not speculation.


and he fought bums along the way so don't tell me he was fighting elite guys so he wasn't getting knockouts. algeiri,rios,horn,Vargas.

facts

he tko cotto in 09. went up to 150 to fight a bigger guy and scarred him for life, then fought shane, score a knockdown. this is not impressive? during this time frame if you would have thrown rios, algieri, horn and vargas, they would have all been taken out!!

your so slow. when he fought algieri, rios, horn, vargas, he has already gotten knocked out by marquez. that's why i said this is when he started declining. i even mention this in my previous post, why are you trying to act like you didnt see it?

[WesternChamp]

you said you never heard of a fighter losing weight after the weigh in and I named oscar in his pacquiao fight.


I didn't mention Floyd or canelo regarding weight

yeah and im asking you did floyd look like oscar!! its believable that oscar lost weight, where as for floyd, he looked just as big as canelo. i mention canelo and floyd because this is the fight where floyd supposedly lost weight!!!!