finally!! Realistic COMPUBOX GGG vs ALVAREZ, BYRD Should Be Given APOLOGY BY INDUSTRY

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  • Lester Tutor
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    #81
    Originally posted by chrisJS
    Lot of effort has been put into trying to convince people that Canelo won, but there's full footage of the actual fight out there and those who actually are boxing fans don't need to spin it any other way. Even people that like Canelo and picked him. Fanboys/xenophobes/trolls don't count as they aren't boxing fans.
    That Canelo won? Nobody won it was a Draw.

    Compubox vs the idea that Nelo ran. Just like they said Floyd ran with PAC when resetting in the pocket is part of the science. Is Floyd bigger than PAC? Why didn’t Floyd run down PAC like he did with Conor if PAC was smaller? GGG is bigger than Nelo even jacobs is Currently telling interviews that size matters when he was discussing the Nelo vs GGG Bout!

    We can list many fighters that use lateral movement. Fanboys that don’t know the sweet science take elementary approaches to justify their fighter like “running.” These are the same PAC boys carried over to GGG, we said 2 years ago.

    GGG fans Upset he didnt KO Nelo. If this is a boxing site and the majority voted GGG to win by KO and not expect to miss...

    What do I think casuals would think?

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    • chrisJS
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      #82
      Originally posted by Floyd's Mask
      That Canelo won? Nobody won it was a Draw.

      Compubox vs the idea that Nelo ran. Just like they said Floyd ran with PAC when resetting in the pocket is part of the science. Is Floyd bigger than PAC? Why didn’t Floyd run down PAC like he did with Conor if PAC was smaller? GGG is bigger than Nelo even jacobs is Currently telling interviews that size matters when he was discussing the Nelo vs GGG Bout!

      We can list many fighters that use lateral movement. Fanboys that don’t know the sweet science take elementary approaches to justify their fighter like “running.” These are the same PAC boys carried over to GGG, we said 2 years ago.

      GGG fans Upset he didnt KO Nelo. If this is a boxing site and the majority voted GGG to win by KO and not expect to miss...

      What do I think casuals would think?
      Not sure what that all means or what it has to do with this. I can't stand Pacquaio or his fans. I don't pick "sides" like that. It's an individual sport.

      Who said Canelo ran? never heard that. He retreated a bit which is factual but he didn't run. More moving away to get different looks and stay out of danger. No qualms with that. Can't comment on the Floyd-Conor fight as I didn't see enough of it and have forgot the Pacquaio fight (was a bit drunk and didn't feel the need to re-watch).

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        #83
        Originally posted by chrisJS
        Not sure what that all means or what it has to do with this. I can't stand Pacquaio or his fans. I don't pick "sides" like that. It's an individual sport.

        Who said Canelo ran? never heard that. He retreated a bit which is factual but he didn't run. More moving away to get different looks and stay out of danger. No qualms with that. Can't comment on the Floyd-Conor fight as I didn't see enough of it and have forgot the Pacquaio fight (was a bit drunk and didn't feel the need to re-watch).
        HBO has bias...

        Their compubox or compubox is always criticized. Think about that. Commentary voice influences everybody. HBO isn’t fooling anyone. These things don’t matter. As time progresses new generations will look at footage and be more objective. Lederman or Lampley aren’t the voices forever.

        The irony is that everybody is taking Lederman’s cars for gospel... because it’s his “card” to three judges plain and simple. One had it close to GGG... the other a Draw who had GGG beating Jacobs, and Byrd for Nelo. What’s the difference between BYRD card and Lederman’s?

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        • chrisJS
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          #84
          Originally posted by Floyd's Mask
          HBO has bias...

          Their compubox or compubox is always criticized. Think about that. Commentary voice influences everybody. HBO isn’t fooling anyone. These things don’t matter. As time progresses new generations will look at footage and be more objective. Lederman or Lampley aren’t the voices forever.

          The irony is that everybody is taking Lederman’s cars for gospel... because it’s his “card” to three judges plain and simple. One had it close to GGG... the other a Draw who had GGG beating Jacobs, and Byrd for Nelo. What’s the difference between BYRD card and Lederman’s?
          HBO does suck and are biased. Lederman is trash and his scorecards are often crazy. He's not always wrong just as he's not always right. He had Pacquaio beating Marquez 115-110, 115-112, 116-112 3 outrageous scores. Barrera over Marquez was unbelievably bad. He's also gotten fights right. More than he's gotten wrong. His card means nothing.

          HBO also could have Canelo bias? He's their highest ratings guy and younger than other stars on their network. It's conceivable maybe they called it right? Who knows? Mexicans in Mexico the majority did see GGG win and with Spanish commentary.

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            #85
            Originally posted by stealthradon
            How? That video is flawed af. They literally, literally counted this as a hit. THIS
            THIS.
            Might have hit his chest. I trust this compubox more than HBO where it's probably Harold Lederman doing the scoring XD XD XD

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              #86
              Originally posted by Ganstaz003
              Most of the supposed 'missed' punches by Golovkin were probes. As in, they weren't meant to be punches intending to land. Secondly, I've counted many punches by Canelo Alvarez that supposedly 'landed' that were blocked or parries.
              GGG
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              Brook and Jacobs hit him...

              These ggg tards are too much XD

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                #87
                Lederman is a piece of sh.it.

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                • Mr Objecitivity
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Bjl12
                  GGG Brook and Jacobs hit him...

                  These ggg tards are too much XD

                  What is so unbelievable about a boxer letting his opponent hit him? You do realize that in boxing, taking a punch from an opponent opens the opponent up for a return punch as well. In other words, a power puncher with good punch resistance like Golovkin can and WILL at times, allow his opponents that he can take punches from, to hit him so that he can land even more powerful shots of his own. It's one thing to think a boxer would let an opponent to hit him for the sake of it. It's another thing to think a boxer would let an opponent hit him with their being a reward in the end. If a boxer like Golovkin knows that if he takes a punch from a weak puncher that can't KO him and it'll open that particular opponent up for a knockout, then such a boxer could be more than willing to get hit on purpose, because they know after getting hit, their opponent will be the one to be open to getting knocked out.

                  Think of it this way:

                  Would you take a punch from Mike Tyson with their being no rewards in the end? I'd wager a guess and say, MOST LIKELY NO! I doubt any reasonable individual who experiences pain is going to accept to that.

                  However, if I were to ask you, would you take a punch from Mike Tyson if you were to get payed a million dollars as a reward for it? Then what would be your answer?

                  Do you now spot the difference between the two scenarios?

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Bjl12
                    Might have hit his chest. I trust this compubox more than HBO where it's probably Harold Lederman doing the scoring XD XD XD
                    https://i.imgur.com/0AeqkRM.jpg (embed won't work right now)

                    It did not. It hit gloves. Actually the wrist wraps.
                    Last edited by stealthradon; 09-27-2017, 01:21 PM.

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                    • Lester Tutor
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by chrisJS
                      HBO does suck and are biased. Lederman is trash and his scorecards are often crazy. He's not always wrong just as he's not always right. He had Pacquaio beating Marquez 115-110, 115-112, 116-112 3 outrageous scores. Barrera over Marquez was unbelievably bad. He's also gotten fights right. More than he's gotten wrong. His card means nothing.

                      HBO also could have Canelo bias? He's their highest ratings guy and younger than other stars on their network. It's conceivable maybe they called it right? Who knows? Mexicans in Mexico the majority did see GGG win and with Spanish commentary.
                      Mexicans in Mexico?

                      There Mexican HOF had Nelo winning. JCC Whose always been the de facto GGG supporter. Barrera too. Morales too. Morales said both won their rounds, but Nelo had the better shots.

                      Marquez had GGG up 1 point going into the 12, and had GGG winning...

                      Who won the 12th round? If you say Alvarez... then ideally Marquez would’ve had it a Draw.

                      Could it be because Nelo has taken the limelight with “counter punching?” They have an earlier rivalry.

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