finally!! Realistic COMPUBOX GGG vs ALVAREZ, BYRD Should Be Given APOLOGY BY INDUSTRY

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  • madsweeney
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    #101
    Originally posted by Floyd's Mask


    I don't understand....this video highly favors Canelo...and it shows he was out-landed in 7 rounds, even in 1, and out-landed by ~ 10% overall. ...how is that a schooling?

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      #102
      Originally posted by madsweeney
      I don't understand....this video highly favors Canelo...and it shows he was out-landed in 7 rounds, even in 1, and out-landed by ~ 10% overall. ...how is that a schooling?
      where was the body work?
      where were the mad power shots?

      the funny thing is most of GGG's compubox are just jabs ffs. no combinations.. Alvarez just baited all that garbage and tagged him with memorable combinations and accuracy... this really isnt a debate..

      imagine if Hagler or Duran just walked guys down with jabs in one division... Hagler fought the exact same way as GGG when felt insecure to trade during elite matchups!

      aboutfkntime

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      • madsweeney
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        #103
        Originally posted by Floyd's Mask
        where was the body work?
        where were the mad power shots?

        the funny thing is most of GGG's compubox are just jabs ffs. no combinations.. Alvarez just baited all that garbage and tagged him with memorable combinations and accuracy... this really isnt a debate..

        imagine if Hagler or Duran just walked guys down with jabs in one division... Hagler fought the exact same way as GGG when felt insecure to trade during elite matchups!

        aboutfkntime
        All that doesn't really matter, effective offense doesn't really score more for jabs/bodywork/combinations vs single punches, its mostly about who scored the most points (i.e. landed the most clean punches).

        Alvarez was out-landed in 7/12 rounds, gave up ring generalship and only had marginally better defense. So 2 of the 3 major scoring criteria he lost in the majority of rounds...so once again...how was that a schooling. You can argue he earned a draw, maybe he won...but even in the best scenario, there was no schooling.
        Last edited by madsweeney; 09-27-2017, 04:24 PM.

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          #104
          Originally posted by madsweeney
          All that doesn't really matter, effective offense doesn't really score more for jabs/bodywork/combinations vs single punches, its mostly about who scored the most points (i.e. landed the most clean punches).

          Alvarez was out-landed in 7/12 rounds, gave up ring generalship and only had marginally better defense. So 2 of the 3 major scoring criteria he lost in the majority of rounds...so once again...how was that a schooling. You can argue he earned a draw, maybe he won...but even in the best scenario, there was no schooling.
          that's easy to answer.

          in boxing science we talk about game plans, strategy A, B, or C.

          history footage shows how ATGs, Elites, Champions, others will make adjustments to win a fight. Again, Ali's Rope A Dope was a tactic and even Floyd has had to stress that out after the Pac bout.. Floyd did that against Cotto rather gracefully. The thing with Floyd, hes probably the most hated in boxing because of the style but his legacy is timeless, just like Nelo's performance on the 16th.

          This is Nelo's 3rd professional division at 27 years of age. We can assume he'll at least move one more...considering guys like Toney, or RJJ did rather easily..

          It's not hard to understand, as Nelo said it himself, that GGG was by far his toughest challenge. He made a choice to move around, and again, make memorable attacks that are in the books. GGG couldnt find a gameplan.... all he did was just eat shots and throw simple jabs... he's at the end of his career, and boxers make choices with how much damage theyre willing to take. Thats the wear and tear of the game.

          Nelo understands longetivity, and probably wants to be in the game for some more time, so his gameplan against GGG was a masterpiece. Too bad Jacobs doesnt know how to play rope a dope and roll with punches like Nelo, or else Jacobs wouldve won just as easy.

          I agree with you the Draw is just fine, and it seems to be the course the of Ward Kova 2... you should be asking the questions to the ggg fans that are quiet about GGGs compubox. they just claim robbery thats unrelated to the Kazakhs performance.

          I mean Brandon Rios was walking towards Pac...so what.. look where that took his career. nothing cool about taking damage like that..

          I suspect GGG will definitely get knocked out this time around. Nelo gonna go Lamont Peterson style on that ass... or Amir Khan... moving around the ring is casually not talked about..fanboyism sometimes breaks the peace between Clingons and Vulkans

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            #105
            Originally posted by Floyd's Mask
            where was the body work?
            where were the mad power shots?


            the funny thing is most of GGG's compubox are just jabs ffs. no combinations.. Alvarez just baited all that garbage and tagged him with memorable combinations and accuracy... this really isnt a debate..

            imagine if Hagler or Duran just walked guys down with jabs in one division... Hagler fought the exact same way as GGG when felt insecure to trade during elite matchups!

            aboutfkntime


            the same with Pacquiao

            everyone said how Pac would win, including Roach

            speed/angles/then, death by a thousand bee-stings

            well, where were the speed/angles/1000 bee-stings ?

            same with Golovkin/Sanchez

            Canelo cannot stand up to Golovkin's power..... Canelo cannot deal with Golovkin's jab..... Canelo will fade, go to the ropes, get KTFO..... etc etc etc

            but yea, nope..... none of that happened

            Golovkin was lucky to escape with his titles, especially fighting the A-side in Vegas..... Ward's win over Kovalev was more controversial than that draw

            both of those camps, Pacquiao/Golovkin, are going to find it a real hard sell to convince fans they won that fight..... because nothing they promised actually happened

            Pac fought Floyd's fight, and Golovkin fought Canelo's

            I told everyone the fat red kid was gonna lite that boy up like a christmas tree

            and people are making the same mistake they made with Ward/Kovalev..... it was clearly obvious to me that the better fighter will make the better adjustments..... and it was clearly obvious to me that the better fighter was Ward

            the same will happen

            the better fighter will make the better adjustments..... and the better fighter is Canelo

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              #106
              Videos like this underscore how absurd a 117-111 scorecard for either guy is- with even 116-112 kinda suspect.

              It was a close fight and no one can argue that in that close fight Canelo is the one that landed the better shots and more of them.

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                #107
                Originally posted by Floyd's Mask
                Yeah unfortunately a miss is a miss. No editing program can fix the way GGG missed. That’s the nature of videography and real life events
                Or such great hits by Canelo as gloves, hands, arms, nothing and many other things. Your video source sucks and you know it. The bitrate is low. The resolution is low. The framerate is low. You know these to be facts.

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                  #108
                  WHY DO YOU GUYS REPLY TO THIS MORON.


                  GO suck floyds **** and be homeless

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                  • Lester Tutor
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by stealthradon
                    Or such great hits by Canelo as gloves, hands, arms, nothing and many other things. Your video source sucks and you know it. The bitrate is low. The resolution is low. The framerate is low. You know these to be facts.

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                    • Ce1ska
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                      #110
                      Have the haters ever been this shook before? They're going to start pulling out security cameras to show different angles of the fight.

                      Here's the thing, when people score the fight they're scoring it in real time. They're not waiting for the compubox numbers, they score it based on what they see.

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