Middleweights who dont move up are PuhCees

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  • Derranged
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    #21
    Yea, I'd respect GGG a lot more if he moved up just one weight class to fight two over the hill opponents then retire like your hero did.

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      #22
      Originally posted by stealthradon
      And defeating some 168 fighters would be better than getting that record because?
      At this rate it's no guarantee that he is going to even get the record because he has been showing signs of decline and age as of late.

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        #23
        Originally posted by champion4ever
        At this rate it's no guarantee that he is going to even get the record because he has been showing signs of decline and age as of late.
        By defeating the 2nd best in MW division and without corruption would have defeated what many believe is a top 5 p4p..

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          #24
          Originally posted by stealthradon
          By defeating the 2nd best in MW division and without corruption would have defeated what many believe is a top 5 p4p..
          All I am saying is that he has appeared vulnerable in last three fights. Against Brooks (he received a scare), Against Jacobs (he won a very close and controversial decision, of which many thought he'd actually lost) and against Alvarez (He secured a very controversial draw which most people had him winning, despite having an uneven performance which indicated that he is slipping, on the decline and past his prime).

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            #25
            Originally posted by Joeyzagz
            I never understood how guys like GGG and Hagler are known as "warriors" when all they do is camp out at 160 waiting for Welters to get fat.

            They are both cowArds and no where near TBE level. They cant even move up 1 fxking class let alone 4. GTFOH
            PuhCees? Lol I like that

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              #26
              Originally posted by Derranged
              Yea, I'd respect GGG a lot more if he moved up just one weight class to fight two over the hill opponents then retire like your hero did.
              At least he moved up lol.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Metho_4u
                At least he moved up lol.
                Unfinished business at 160- Jacobs and Canelo rematches.

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                  #28
                  There is a reason why there are weight classes in boxing. If a fighter is competing at his best weight, there is no good reason to leave that division so long as there are competitive fights to me made. Most fighters who move around divisions are either outgrowing them as they age, have no other options for money fights in their division, or are running from someone in the division they left behind. Navigating through divisions works both ways.

                  In the case of GGG, no one wanted to fight him, and he offered to go down to 154 for Floyd but Floyd told him go fight Ward. Andre Ward said he would be willing to fight Floyd at 160, but he didn't offer that fight to GGG at 160, wonder why?

                  Hagler was in peak condition at 160 and there was nothing going on at 168 towards the last few years of his career and 175 was too big a leap for his frame. No one should be questioning Hagler's heart, skills, or resume. He would torn Canelo's head off at 160.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury
                    Roy Jones Jr. went from 175lbs. to Heavyweight. Bernard Hopkins went from 160lbs. to 175lbs both within a fight... next excuse.
                    with same day weigh-in hagler was pretty much maxed out @ 160..

                    jones outgrew the divisions up to 175

                    hopkins came into boxing as a lightheavy and scaled down to middleweight, so going back up to his original division wasn't that much of a stretch

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Derranged
                      Unfinished business at 160- Jacobs and Canelo rematches.
                      He's not going to fight Jacobs again lol are you ******? He'll rematch Canelo, lose to him, and then retire.

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