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  • soul_survivor
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    #11
    Joshua is taking over as the biggest international star.

    Good names within the states who are popular include Canelo and GGG. One of the welter guys may come out as a star if they actually fight each other.

    The SMW winner, likely a Brit could become a star too. Plenty of options, which did not seem likely in 2015.

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      #12
      Originally posted by djtmal
      canelo? canelo was already an established name he was gonna be a top dog with or without floyd it was one of floyd's highest grossing fights because it was two of the biggest names brought together...

      maidana was cherrypicked over khan & thurman, thurman was the young lion who really deserved a shot or i would have settled for Danny Swift you wanna talk giving some young lions who really proved themselves a shot..

      ...fought a faded pac after years of dancing around it, & what shot did a faded berto and macgregor actually have...
      Canelo was established among who? Mexicans? Latino's? Fighting Floyd made him a household name. Before he could only sell out Texas or other states and cities with large Hispanic populations, now he's selling out the MGM and T-Mobile Center. Canelo was established like Andre Ward is established, Floyd made him a PPV star. And obviously he lost that fight but beating Floyd would have made him a mega star. But the important thing is Floyd gave him the opportunity.

      Floyd never ducked Thurman. He told Keith to get past his boy Spence, establish himself a little more, if he could do that Floyd would give him an opportunity. Thurman has yet to fight Spence. And no was talking about Khan. He'd already had been knocked out twice. The only people who wanted to see that **** are Floyd haters in hindsight going on about Khan's fast hands. Maidana was the fight that made sense, he had just beaten Floyd's so "called successor". It was a the match-up fans wanted and did over a million buys according to Showtime.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
        Canelo was established among who? Mexicans? Latino's? Fighting Floyd made him a household name. Before he could only sell out Texas or other states and cities with large Hispanic populations, now he's selling out the MGM and T-Mobile Center. Canelo was established like Andre Ward is established, Floyd made him a PPV star. And obviously he lost that fight but beating Floyd would have made him a mega star. But the important thing is Floyd gave him the opportunity.

        Floyd never ducked Thurman. He told Keith to get past his boy Spence, establish himself a little more, if he could do that Floyd would give him an opportunity. Thurman has yet to fight Spence. And no was talking about Khan. He'd already had been knocked out twice. The only people who wanted to see that **** are Floyd haters in hindsight going on about Khan's fast hands. Maidana was the fight that made sense, he had just beaten Floyd's so "called successor". It was a the match-up fans wanted and did over a million buys according to Showtime.
        Its like I said. Canelo was going to be one of the top guys with or without Floyd. Canelo and Andre Ward at no time were on equal footing marketwise imo, and what did Canelo/Floyd do ppv wise 2 million? Believe me Floyd didn't put those numbers up by himself.

        Regarding Maidana, the main guy who wanted to see that fight was Floyd without a doubt. Khan, say whatever excuse floats your boat, but he was the winner of Floyd's poll of public opinion who he should fight next, and it was Khan, the guy with length, speed and combinations, but he still loses in the grand scheme of things to Maidana, the plodding guy that Floyd knows he can beat to the punch. Path of least resistence all day.

        Whats killing me is how you sound with the excuses regarding Keith Thurman. Classic bait and switch.

        Thurman is beating guys in spectacular fashion and calling Floyd out at the same time. Earns his way to mandatory to Floyd's WBC ww belt. Keeping it 110, we talking Floyd vs. Thurman. How does Spence name get thrown in the mix. How is Floyd gonna try to dictate to Thurman about fighting Spence, who in all honesty was a nobody, is just getting some light over the last year. Swift Garcia was far more established than Spence and we already got Swift vs. Thurman. Da **** was Floyd's problem ain't he a ww?

        Yeah we know more about Spence now, I'm quite sure we'll get Thurman vs. Spence before both guys are over the hill, but kill yaself Floyd and anybody who buys into that logic that Thurman had to bow down to get a fight. On the real, Floyd put Spence in the camp to keep anybody from calling for Floyd vs. Spence potentially, you gotta peep game.
        Last edited by djtmal; 09-26-2017, 11:30 AM.

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          Originally posted by djtmal
          Its like I said. Canelo was going to be one of the top guys with or without Floyd. Canelo and Andre Ward at no time were on equal footing marketwise imo, and what did Canelo/Floyd do ppv wise 2 million? Believe me Floyd didn't put those numbers up by himself.

          Regarding Maidana, the main guy who wanted to see that fight was Floyd without a doubt. Khan, say whatever excuse floats your boat, but he was the winner of Floyd's poll of public opinion who he should fight next, and it was Khan, the guy with length, speed and combinations, but he still loses in the grand scheme of things to Maidana, the plodding guy that Floyd knows he can beat to the punch. Path of least resistence all day.

          Whats killing me is how you sound with the excuses regarding Keith Thurman. Classic bait and switch.

          Thurman is beating guys in spectacular fashion and calling Floyd out at the same time. Earns his way to mandatory to Floyd's WBC ww belt. Keeping it 110, we talking Floyd vs. Thurman. How does Spence name get thrown in the mix. How is Floyd gonna try to dictate to Thurman about fighting Spence, who in all honesty was a nobody, is just getting some light over the last year. Swift Garcia was far more established than Spence and we already got Swift vs. Thurman. Da **** was Floyd's problem ain't he a ww?

          Yeah we know more about Spence now, I'm quite sure we'll get Thurman vs. Spence before both guys are over the hill, but kill yaself Floyd and anybody who buys into that logic that Thurman had to bow down to get a fight. On the real, Floyd put Spence in the camp to keep anybody from calling for Floyd vs. Spence potentially, you gotta peep game.
          Floyd vs Canelo did over 2 million buys and Floyd brought the vast majority of those fans to the table. Canelo couldn't even fight on PPV before Floyd. Floyd was doing millions of buys fighting Ortiz and Guerrero. It's obvious who needed who.

          And I'm not making excuses regarding Thurman. He's literally calling out the greatest and most popular box of his era after beating the likes of Collazo, Bundu, and Guerrero. He wanted the Floyd pay day but he did nothing to earn it. If you're mad Thurman didn't get the Floyd fight, blame "One Time" for taking his sweet time getting in the ring with decent competition. Maybe if it didn't take him and his team years to make the Porter and Garcia fights or he had just fought Spence he would have gotten a shot at Floyd

          Twitter polls are irrelevant. Anyone can vote in a twitter poll. Trolls, bots, alt accounts, anyone. They mean nothing. Most likely the poll was flooded by UK fanboys voting Khan because they would have gotten the fight for free anyway. Floyd/Chino was the fight fans wanted. Like I said, Maidana had just beaten Broner. The fight did one million buys, it made sense.

          As for Spence, he wasn't even a world champion when Floyd was active. The fight never made sense. But what's Pac's reason for ducking him? Why didn't Pac fight Spence, Thurman, or Crawford instead of Jeff Horn? Why isn't he fighting those guys now?

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            Since when is McGregor a boxing star? He was along for the ride on a mixed card that featured two athletes from different sports. He's not a boxer. Canelo, Pac, GGG, Spence, Crawford would all end his career as a "boxer" and he would be damaged goods upon returning to the MMA.

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              Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
              The **** out of here with this bull****. At least Floyd gave Canelo and Maidana the opportunity Oscar, Hernandez, and others gave him. Pac is going to go out fighting the likes of Chris Algieri and Jeff Horn instead of giving someone like Crawford, Spence, or Thurman a shot to become a PPV star. And Pac is around the same age Floyd was when he fought Canelo and Maidana. No excuses.

              If you're going to ***** about anyone retiring without fighting a challenge, Pac should be the one you complain about, not Floyd.
              Seriously, do you talk about anything other than Floyd or a fighter you link directly to Floyd (GGG, Pacquaio, TMT fighters)?

              Get a real hobby.

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                #17
                Originally posted by chrisJS
                Seriously, do you talk about anything other than Floyd or a fighter you link directly to Floyd (GGG, Pacquaio, TMT fighters)?

                Get a real hobby.
                Shut the **** ass wipe. This is a thread about Floyd and Pac isn't it? Or do you think your white skinned heroes 97G and Bivol are three of boxings biggest megastars?

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                  Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
                  The **** out of here with this bull****. At least Floyd gave Canelo and Maidana the opportunity Oscar, Hernandez, and others gave him. Pac is going to go out fighting the likes of Chris Algieri and Jeff Horn instead of giving someone like Crawford, Spence, or Thurman a shot to become a PPV star. And Pac is around the same age Floyd was when he fought Canelo and Maidana. No excuses.

                  If you're going to ***** about anyone retiring without fighting a challenge, Pac should be the one you complain about, not Floyd.
                  Why weren't you calling out Floyd for not giving Crawford, Spence, or Thurman a shot to become a PPV star, instead of fighting McGregor?

                  Algieri and Jeff Horn are more credible BOXING opponents than an 0-0 guy.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
                    Shut the **** ass wipe. This is a thread about Floyd and Pac isn't it? Or do you think your white skinned heroes 97G and Bivol are three of boxings biggest megastars?
                    Bivol isn't white, nor one of my favorites, neither is GGG. My favorite fighters are Marquez, Crawford, Trinidad, Sanchez, Olivares, Hagler, Toney, Tszyu, Jofre, Carlos Ortiz and Lomachenko. I'm not a racist like you. I'm not repulsed by other skin colors like you. You've probably not heard of half of them and seen basically none of them fight.

                    Thanks for answering my question with "NO. I don't"

                    How old are you? I'm going to guess 15/16 and I am not meaning that as an insult.
                    Last edited by chrisJS; 09-26-2017, 12:55 PM.

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                      Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
                      Floyd vs Canelo did over 2 million buys and Floyd brought the vast majority of those fans to the table. Canelo couldn't even fight on PPV before Floyd. Floyd was doing millions of buys fighting Ortiz and Guerrero. It's obvious who needed who.

                      And I'm not making excuses regarding Thurman. He's literally calling out the greatest and most popular box of his era after beating the likes of Collazo, Bundu, and Guerrero. He wanted the Floyd pay day but he did nothing to earn it. If you're mad Thurman didn't get the Floyd fight, blame "One Time" for taking his sweet time getting in the ring with decent competition. Maybe if it didn't take him and his team years to make the Porter and Garcia fights or he had just fought Spence he would have gotten a shot at Floyd

                      Twitter polls are irrelevant. Anyone can vote in a twitter poll. Trolls, bots, alt accounts, anyone. They mean nothing. Most likely the poll was flooded by UK fanboys voting Khan because they would have gotten the fight for free anyway. Floyd/Chino was the fight fans wanted. Like I said, Maidana had just beaten Broner. The fight did one million buys, it made sense.

                      As for Spence, he wasn't even a world champion when Floyd was active. The fight never made sense. But what's Pac's reason for ducking him? Why didn't Pac fight Spence, Thurman, or Crawford instead of Jeff Horn? Why isn't he fighting those guys now?


                      Oh so now you don't want to give Alvarez his props?

                      Floyd was averaging 1 million ppv, prior to Alvarez, and with Alvarez they do 2.2. I'm not even gonna touch that no more.

                      Everything else you saying reads like one big Floyd excuse.

                      Regarding Khan. Now the poll is irrelevant. Then why do a poll at all. Being that it favored Khan now its irrelevant. Yeah right. Floyd was averaging one 1 million ppv regardless of whether it was Maidana or Khan. You act as if Floyd/Maidana broke ppv records or something. Trust me Floyd does the same #'s with either guy, but the more favorable style matchup was what that was all about, because Khan would have been a style nightmare for Floyd.

                      What you say here regarding Thurman tells me all I need to know. The boy is mandatory to Floyd's WBC ww belt for years, calls Floyd out for years, beat at least one of the same paper champs Floyd danced with for big $, and your response is he didn't do enough to earn it. Ha ha. As if Guerrero, Berto, Ortiz, and Maidana jumped through hula hoops and did all this "earning" you speak of to get a shot at Floyd. Oh I get it now. Thurman must be real special, or a legit threat. Tell me, whats up with old Ortiz and Guerrero these days, where are these paper champs I mentioned right now. What belts they hold now. Crickets.

                      ...and you Floyd boys gotta stop trying to twist Floyd shenanigans off onto other fighters. Errrybody else's fault all the time thats what exposes ya as hypocrites.
                      Last edited by djtmal; 09-26-2017, 01:24 PM.

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