GGG is only a 'thing' because Dmitry Pirog retired early!

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  • Boxnation fan
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    GGG is only a 'thing' because Dmitry Pirog retired early!

    We all forget who the true Middleweight successor to Sergio Martinez was and it wasn't GGG...his name was Dmitry Pirog!

    Pirog was known for being the Mayweather of the Middleweight Division...infact Dmitry was a huge fan of Mayweather and mentioned how he based his style on Mayweather's adaptive reactive style.

    I don't neccessarily believe in the 'Triangle effect' but if we look at how Pirog easily outboxed and knocked out Daniel Jacobs in 2010 and then see how GGG struggled with the same guy, we have to conclude that Pirog would have done the same to GGG.

    GGG started appearing on HBO in 2012 so i can imagine they would have eventually met on that channel in 2013 if Pirog had stayed healthy and injury free.

    Pirog had fantastic footwork, hand speed and fast accurate punching just like his idol Mayweather. He would have been too skilled for GGG's rather plodding slow punches and used Golovkin's attacks against him. I don't think he would have stopped Golovkin but he certainly would have beaten him comfortably on points by 118-110/117-111 type scores.

    That would have been the last we saw of GGG, he would have been sent packing back to Germany and never to be heard of again except probably picking up the WBA 'Regular' Title and making defences against bums.
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    cool then lets use the triangle theory too, pirog went 12 rounds with ishida, golovkin took ishida out in 3, golovkin must be better!!!

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      #3
      Originally posted by Boxnation fan
      We all forget who the true Middleweight successor to Sergio Martinez was and it wasn't GGG...his name was Dmitry Pirog!

      Pirog was known for being the Mayweather of the Middleweight Division...infact Dmitry was a huge fan of Mayweather and mentioned how he based his style on Mayweather's adaptive reactive style.

      I don't neccessarily believe in the 'Triangle effect' but if we look at how Pirog easily outboxed and knocked out Daniel Jacobs in 2010 and then see how GGG struggled with the same guy, we have to conclude that Pirog would have done the same to GGG.

      GGG started appearing on HBO in 2012 so i can imagine they would have eventually met on that channel in 2013 if Pirog had stayed healthy and injury free.

      Pirog had fantastic footwork, hand speed and fast accurate punching just like his idol Mayweather. He would have been too skilled for GGG's rather plodding slow punches and used Golovkin's attacks against him. I don't think he would have stopped Golovkin but he certainly would have beaten him comfortably on points by 118-110/117-111 type scores.

      That would have been the last we saw of GGG, he would have been sent packing back to Germany and never to be heard of again except probably picking up the WBA 'Regular' Title and making defences against bums.
      They were scheduled to fight in September 2012 on Golovkin's HBO debut. Pirog fucked his back up and the rest is history. Woulda been a great fkn fight but you are forgetting that Pirog made hard work of a coupla guys he really shouldn't have. I'm calling GGG but without a huge degree of certainty... Pirog was a sad loss to the division, man, stylistically there was no-one quite like him.
      Last edited by Citizen Koba; 09-24-2017, 02:01 PM.

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        #4
        Golovkin would have retired Pirog earlier had they fought

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          #5
          Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
          They were scheduled to fight in September 2012 on Golovkin's HBO debut. Pirog fucked his back up and the rest is history. Woulda been a great fkn fight but you are forgetting that Pirog struggled with a coupla guys he really shouldn't have. I'm calling GGG but without a huge degree of certainty... Pirog was a sad loss to the division, man, stylistically there was no-one quite like him.
          Good info man, i'd forgotten they were actually scheduled to fight.

          I don't think Pirog struggled with any one. He just didn't close the show sometimes against guys who just came to survive.

          He was at his best when an opponent came to him, which is what GGG would have done the entire fight and it was the perfect style for Pirog to look Great against.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Boxnation fan
            We all forget who the true Middleweight successor to Sergio Martinez was and it wasn't GGG...his name was Dmitry Pirog!

            Pirog was known for being the Mayweather of the Middleweight Division...infact Dmitry was a huge fan of Mayweather and mentioned how he based his style on Mayweather's adaptive reactive style.

            I don't neccessarily believe in the 'Triangle effect' but if we look at how Pirog easily outboxed and knocked out Daniel Jacobs in 2010 and then see how GGG struggled with the same guy, we have to conclude that Pirog would have done the same to GGG.

            GGG started appearing on HBO in 2012 so i can imagine they would have eventually met on that channel in 2013 if Pirog had stayed healthy and injury free.

            Pirog had fantastic footwork, hand speed and fast accurate punching just like his idol Mayweather. He would have been too skilled for GGG's rather plodding slow punches and used Golovkin's attacks against him. I don't think he would have stopped Golovkin but he certainly would have beaten him comfortably on points by 118-110/117-111 type scores.

            That would have been the last we saw of GGG, he would have been sent packing back to Germany and never to be heard of again except probably picking up the WBA 'Regular' Title and making defences against bums.
            LMAO. We have to conclude even though that was not the same jacobs. Pirog went 12 hard rds with ishida who ggg murked in 3. POINT BLANK YOU'RE AN IMBECILE.
            Last edited by satiev1; 09-24-2017, 02:33 PM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by DramaShow
              cool then lets use the triangle theory too, pirog went 12 rounds with ishida, golovkin took ishida out in 3, golovkin must be better!!!
              This! Styles makes fights and Golovkin was aging by the time he fought Daniel Jacobs.

              Anyway, Golovkin's KO win over Ishida was FAR more impressive than Pirog's TKO win over Daniel Jacobs. Golovkin sent Ishida out of the ring with his knockout and put him to sleep. Daniel Jacobs was still conscious and even managed to get up after getting dropped by Pirog.

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                #8
                I'm just gonna give my opinion and speculate as well and say that pirog was a mothafucken BEAST and at that point of their careers he would've outboxed ggg very comfortably

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ganstaz003
                  This! Styles makes fights and Golovkin was aging by the time he fought Daniel Jacobs.

                  Anyway, Golovkin's KO win over Ishida was FAR more impressive than Pirog's TKO win over Daniel Jacobs. Golovkin sent Ishida out of the ring with his knockout and put him to sleep. Daniel Jacobs was still conscious and even managed to get up after getting dropped by Pirog.

                  I don't believe in triangles theories


                  But lol in no way is ishida KO victory impressive over a Danny Jacobs KO

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ramses07
                    I don't believe in triangles theories


                    But lol in no way is ishida KO victory impressive over a Danny Jacobs KO

                    Dmitry Pirog barely even KO'ed Daniel Jacobs. Last time I checked, Jacobs was still conscious and could've even continued. It was the referee that stopped the fight.

                    Golovkin scored a clean KO over Ishida, sent him out of the ring into the announcer's table and put him to sleep.

                    If you still don't understand why Golovkin's KO was more impressive, then I can't help you.

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