Comments Thread For: Golden Boy Prez: Canelo-GGG II in Talks, Could Happen in May

[UNBIASED BOXING]

Whoops I forgot to tell you JJC and Barrera as well! Not only that, Mayweather Sr said the same thing Morales said as well as JCC!. The best is yet to come!

Well gee, Mexicans saying their countries biggest boxing star won. Wow, a real shocker.

Meanwhile, the vast majority of fans and majority of professional boxers say that the lesser popular fighter won. Hmmm.

[angkag]

Well gee, Mexicans saying their countries biggest boxing star won. Wow, a real shocker.

Meanwhile, the vast majority of fans and majority of professional boxers say that the lesser popular fighter won. Hmmm.

Rumours have it that it was pretty much a shut-out for Golovkin in Khazakhstan. I think there was a Mexican restaurant in Astana where the staff had it for Canelo though.

[Canelo and GGG]

Rumours have it that it was pretty much a shut-out for Golovkin in Khazakhstan. I think there was a Mexican restaurant in Astana where the staff had it for Canelo though.

[Shadoww702]

This is how you get to a Canelo win, by discounting Golovkin's jab and its effectiveness, scoring primarily on power punches. You can do the same in the Ward/Kov fight to get to a Kov win, or Golovkin/Jacobs to get to a Jacobs win.

Its an option - pretty much what Byrd did.

Man almost EVERYONE gave Canelo round 12! AND YOU discounted the EFFECTIVE DEFENSE and the 485 MISSED punches. Listen I gave the fight to GGG 7-5 BUT I can see some who had a Draw or even 7-5 for Canelo... Past that I question their judging.

Do yourself a favor and go re-watch the fight with the sound off. And score it AFTER every round. Then come back to me with your card. I don't give a sht about rounds 1-3 (Canelo) or 5-8 (GGG) unless some reason you probably gave GGG rounds 1-3 as well.

I'm interested in 4, 9-12.

[Shadoww702]

Rumours have it that it was pretty much a shut-out for Golovkin in Khazakhstan. I think there was a Mexican restaurant in Astana where the staff had it for Canelo though.

I heard that as well.

Everyone in Kazakhstan scored a lot of rounds 10-8 for GGG with some even throwing in 12-7 rounds for good measure.

[Satir]

Man almost EVERYONE gave Canelo round 12! AND YOU discounted the EFFECTIVE DEFENSE and the 485 MISSED punches. Listen I gave the fight to GGG 7-5 BUT I can see some who had a Draw or even 7-5 for Canelo... Past that I question their judging.

Do yourself a favor and go re-watch the fight with the sound off. And score it AFTER every round. Then come back to me with your card. I don't give a sht about rounds 1-3 (Canelo) or 5-8 (GGG) unless some reason you probably gave GGG rounds 1-3 as well.

I'm interested in 4, 9-12.

1 GGG landed 8 - Canelo 8
2 GGG 11-8 Canelo
3 GGG 10-9 Canelo
4 16-6
5 17-5
6 15-6
7 15-4
8 21-6
9 13-5
10 25-12
11 13-4
12 17-09

Canelo has not oulanded GGG in any round, from round 4 to 12 GGG outboxes him by landing twice or three times as much as Canelo
check "Why Gennady GGG Golovkin Beat Canelo Alvarez (Landed Punches Count) #CaneloGGG" by artorias boxing

[Diego Rodriguez]

Chavez Sr changed and says Canelo no longer won. Just adding that.

If Golovkin is good to fight I'd hope he fights before May 2018. Saunders and his title seems to be the most logical to me.

[Green Hornet]

Golden Boy was forced to negotiate. Canelo will look like chicken again if they postpone.

[Diego Rodriguez]

Think I saw an estimate that GGG had pulled about $15 million in his career pre-Canelo (I'm assuming this includes endorsements), then Canelo fight was worth $15-$25 million to him, and no doubt the second would be worth similar. - so for sure, the Canelo fights are big ticket for him. But he has enough for the rest of his lifetime unless he has expensive plans (divorce, politics etc), so another Canelo payday a nice-to-have vs must-have.

I'm guessing the negotiation is:

- if Canelo wants to fight May, Golovkin wants to fight Dec (not seeing Saunders as a real threat to the May payday, but reality is there is always some element of risk, but Golovkin willing to take the risk for that last belt)
- alternatively, if GBP wants no risk to a rematch happening, needs to be March

Agree 100%

Don't want to see Golovkin wait until May.

I don't want to wait to see Canelo until then.

[Diego Rodriguez]

Man almost EVERYONE gave Canelo round 12! AND YOU discounted the EFFECTIVE DEFENSE and the 485 MISSED punches. Listen I gave the fight to GGG 7-5 BUT I can see some who had a Draw or even 7-5 for Canelo... Past that I question their judging.

Do yourself a favor and go re-watch the fight with the sound off. And score it AFTER every round. Then come back to me with your card. I don't give a sht about rounds 1-3 (Canelo) or 5-8 (GGG) unless some reason you probably gave GGG rounds 1-3 as well.

I'm interested in 4, 9-12.

I had 8-4 Golovkin but definitely don't have an issue with 7-5 Golovkin.

I don't get the HBO commentary. It was clearly slanted early for Canelo. Then it was about even during from 4-10. Then it went back to being more Canelo. If anything that commentary was more pro Canelo not Golovkin.

I didn't even hear the commentary the first time. Listened to it on the replay.

Lederman's card was for Golovkin and it wasn't ridiculous.