Who ranks higher all-time: Andre Ward or Joe Calzaghe?

[N!Ck F.]

I think it's very clearly Joe Calzaghe.

- he left his home country to fight
- he defeated a better, undefeated version of Kessler WITHOUT using illegal tactics
- he had more fights, over a longer period of time
- he received no gift decisions, winning all his fights clearly
- he never stopped anyone with low blows and the help of a crooked referee

I am Italian & I hate Ward.
I still think Ward is 10x better than CalSLAPPY was. Joes biggest wins are against an ancient Jones and Hopkins.
And both gave him hell.

[SkillspayBills]

Ward beat 4 fighters on the p4p list WHEN HE FOUGHT THEM. Joe never did that, and this is coming from a guy who was a big Calzaghe fan.

[mathed]

Calzaghe: 47-0 (32 kos), came to the opponent's backyard after moving up in weight to win titles.

coWard: 32-0 (16kos), fought in his backyard, never travelled, known for illegal punches, headbuts and wrestling tactics.

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There is no debate here, it's more than obvious who the better fighter was.

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[Mexican_Puppet]

Ward

easy!

[The Hammer]

this is coming from a guy who was a big Calzaghe fan.

I remember back a few years ago you were very disparaging toward Calzaghe.

[Raggamuffin]

The difference between these two is comp. I love both fighters but Ward has been in with the much tougher comp. I'd have to give the edge to Ward.

[daggum]

The difference between these two is comp. I love both fighters but Ward has been in with the much tougher comp. I'd have to give the edge to Ward.

do you really deserve more credit for fighting better comp if you are cheating nonstop against them? both guys are hugely flawed and shouldnt be remembered fondly but boxing fans for some reason want to manufacture stars and greatness when it simply isnt there.

[Raggamuffin]

do you really deserve more credit for fighting better comp if you are cheating nonstop against them? both guys are hugely flawed and shouldnt be remembered fondly but boxing fans for some reason want to manufacture stars and greatness when it simply isnt there.

You don't really know boxing. The above is just straight trash. Talk that ****** **** to someone who doesn't know boxing so that you can make it seem like "you do know boxing"!

Shouldn''t be remembered fondly, lmmfao. Somebody smack this ******, butthurt mofo.

[yankees7448]

you think robberies and punching people in the nuts and getting tko wins will be looked upon kindly in 20 years??? like i said only ignorance and ignorant people will look kindly on ward. you appealed to boxrec instead of saying in 20 years when people watch tthe kovalev fights...because you know if they watch those fights they will see a clear loss and clear fouls that ended the other.

Once again, you're applying an emotional thing to it. You do realize that not everything thinks Kovalev was robbed in the first fight and that the low blows weren't as low or as serious as Kovalev claimed.