Andre Ward as a SMW.

[VG_Addict]

Now that Ward's retired, where do you rank him on the all-time SMW list? I say he's top 10.

[Larry the boss]

Most only passed thru 168 and didnt stay long..He fought most of his career there he is #1 or #2..between him and Calzaghe

[Clegg]

Just in terms of who would beat who, I feel like Roy and Toney would edge him. But he had more significant wins than them at the weight.

[Mr.Fantastic]

So beating Froch and Kessler, the same Kessler for many years was hated on and called a can killer cause Calzaghe beat him(to discredit Calzaghe), makes you a top 5 SMW? Da Fuck?!!?

Pro race stans exposing themselves just like they did with Pacquiao and catch weights.

[Clegg]

So beating Froch and Kessler, the same Kessler for many years was hated on and called a can killer cause Calzaghe beat him(to discredit Calzaghe), makes you a top 5 SMW? Da Fuck?!!?

Pro race stans exposing themselves just like they did with Pacquiao and catch weights.

SMW isn't like MW or LHW, full of ATGs going back over a century. I figure the top 5 is something like Calzaghe, Jones, Toney, Ward and one of Eubank/Benn/Collins depending on who you prefer. I'd say Benn.

[soul_survivor]

Now that Ward's retired, where do you rank him on the all-time SMW list? I say he's top 10.

SMW isn't really a deep division.

It has 3 ATGs that fought at the weight, and ony one of those is an ATG of the weight itself.

Ward did fight at a good time in the divison but beyond Froch, he doesn't have a signature win. He spoiled and fouled his way through Kessler, bored us with AA (Froch did a lot better and won more convincingly) and never gave us the Bute fight.

At lhw..well yall know lol

[TheBigLug]

Some fighters passed through as Larry said, so i don't count them

I think Ward is probably no.2 behind Calzaghe. Calzaghe would have beaten him prime for prime too.

[Metho_4u]

Some fighters passed through as Larry said, so i don't count them

I think Ward is probably no.2 behind Calzaghe. Calzaghe would have beaten him prime for prime too.

I like Joe a lot, but I don't think he beats Ward.

[TheBigLug]

I like Joe a lot, but I don't think he beats Ward.

Calzaghe at SMW was hard to beat. I'm not sure Ward would be able to maul him easily because Calzaghe would do a lot of quick work on the inside. Calzaghe might be too busy on the outside too. Ward wouldn't have the power to deter Calzaghe at SMW either.

I think it would be a very messy fight with Calzaghe as the busier fighter and probably winning on points. Although i could see Ward doing the sharper work. I'd imagine it would be one of those fights that really divided opinion in the scoring.

[chrisJS]

Firmly behind Calzaghe and even though they made shorter stops there Toney and Jones rank higher too.