Comments Thread For: Golden Boy Prez: Canelo Can Improve, Golovkin Can't Get Better!

[Elroy The Great]

the shltty under cards didnt help.

it was an ok fight due to the expectations (2 guys who usually seek for the ko). it was a duplicate of dlh vs tito.

canelo boxed too much, just like dlh did (although dlh was clearly robbed).

in the end, all boxing can do is put the best guys available in opposite corners.

[TJ highway]

I'm a fan of both fighters!

I was torn when they fought just like when JMM fought the Pac Man.

Canelo was the younger fighter yet he was gassed by round 5!

We all knew the key to this fight was Canelo over coming GGG jab!

That did not happen?

When did we ever see Canelo moving backwards?

Or someone cutting off the ring on him?

Or Canelo getting caught on the ropes?

Maybe Canelo bulked up too much!

Muscle mass uses Oxygen which drains the blood!

Maybe he needs to train in high altitude like GGG does in Big Bear!

Or like JMM or his brother Rafael Marquez in the mountains above Mexico City!

The general consensus is that GGG won the fight!

Even when Canelo fought Mayweather he was moving forward!

[skinnystev]

canola can improve for the next fight ? yeah he can run faster and father . prediction Triple GGG by KO next time

[MDPopescu]

i agree. canelo held back whereas 3g went all out.

Definitely... GGG went like a mad dog...

[Elroy The Great]

Definitely... GGG went like a mad dog...

canelo was right there on the ropes and 3g couldnt inflict any damage.

canelo should have taken more chances at stopping 3g. that part was disappointing to me.

[BigStomps]

Then let me be the first. The fight was a huge letdown. It was May-Pac all over again, just with two entertaining styles instead of one to make the money grab more entertaining, but not that much more. Floyd waited until Pacquiao was 36, Team Canelo waited until GGG was 35, and will be 36 for the rematch. Same exact thing.

Boxing does it again, taking what could have been an iconic, classic fight with multiple knockdowns and probably a dramatic ending, to a forgettable fight with very few exchanges, no knockdowns, not even any fighters really staggering, and very disappointing outcome. Instead of casual fans talking about what a classic fight this was, and how amazing boxing is, to grow the sport, they are talking about how the fight was marinated and the judges were paid off all to ensure Canelo won, and that the sport is still extremely corrupt, and that fights never live up to the hype because they are made too late.

I bought the fight and I was extremely disappointed with my purchase. I'm still upset about how I looked forward to top guys fighting prime GGG for years only for it never to happen outside of Stevens, Rosado, Murray, and Lemieux, who are underrated, but I was looking forward to much more than that. Top opponents at 160 during his prime, then at 168 and maybe even 175. Instead I paid my money last saturday only to watch my worries about the fight get confirmed, and to realize that fans never even got to see one top opponent vs prime GGG at 160 in his career, let alone 168 and 175, and unless they correct GGG's training somehow to recapture his prime, we never will.

Canelo-GGG will be remembered as the fight that officially stamped GGG's career, boxing wise, as possibly the most wasted potential, and the biggest tease of a career, that we've seen in modern boxing history. It will be remembered as just another overmarinated, underwhelming fight, where money, and protecting the house fighter, was prioritized over the sport, over what was fair, over the quality of the fight, and over the fans.

Was the fight at least suspenseful, and closely contested? Yes, just like Pacquiao vs Jeff Horn was, but that doesn't mean Pacquiao isn't past his prime. He is. Or should we put Jeff Horn on the pound-for-pound list now? Canelo vs old GGG had more in common with Pacquiao-Horn than it did with Hagler-Hearns, and that's a damn shame, and a direct result of waiting until GGG got old before making the fight. The same mistake boxing made with Mayweather-Pacquiao, it just repeated again. Wasn't it Max Kellerman who said this fight was happening at the "perfect time"? What a crock of ****. Perfect for HBO to protect their cash cow, Canelo, and for Max to justify and push his anti-pressure-fighter bias on everyone, but for the sport, and for the fans, the fight could not have come at a worse time, outside of waiting even longer, like until next May! Oh wait, that's exactly the plan for the rematch LOL.

**** boxing. I wish I never started watching it. My friends have been asking me more about the sport lately because ESPN has been talking about Mayweather-Mcgregor and Canelo-GGG so much this year, and I always tell them the sport is not only more corrupt than ever, but it's worse than ever because at least in the past you got the good, prime fights first, and then the corruption came in the decisions but they couldn't take away the great meaningful fights that happened before hand. But now, you dont just get corrupt decisions, you also don't even get the great, meaningful, prime fights before hand.

So that's the truth. There are lots of media people who make their money pushing boxing, and posting Canelo-GGG videos and articles, so they are going to spin this. Plus, a lot of them are friends with, or want access to, Oscar, BHop, Tom Loeffler, and so on. So, they will spin this better than Mayweather-Pacquiao, because many of them don't like Mayweather so they were willing to tell the truth about that. But this was more of the same ****, just with better styles, but otherwise it was the same ****. In fact GGG looked more declined at 35 than Pacquiao did vs Mayweather, possibly because GGG may have been ruined by overtraining and sleeping in high altitude, whereas Pacquiao actually has had strength and conditioning coaches who know what they're doing.

So please guys, do not defend this ****. Boxing ruined another big matchup. Every single one, they ruin. Mayweather-Pacquiao with overmarination. Kovalev-Ward with corrupt refs and judges. Canelo-GGG with overmarination. Gamboa-JuanMa with overmarination. Heck even Chocolatito-Inoue with overmarination. Why wasn't that fight made right after Cuadras? Kovalev-Stevenson ruined with ducking and overmarination. Kovalev-Beterbiev ruined with overmarination. GGG-Martinez ruined with overmarination. Donaire-Rigondeaux arguably happened too late, although at least there it wouldn't have mattered. Floyd-Canelo ruined with weight draining. Floyd-Mosley ruined with overmarination. Floyd-Cotto ruined with overmarination. Oscar-Whitaker ruined with overmarination. Pacquiao-Cotto and Pacquiao-Margarito potentially ruined with weight draining, although I suspect Pacquiao-Cotto at least would have looked the same, and Pacquiao was so much smaller than those guys that maybe it was only fair they had to sacrifice too. I don't know, but boxing just keeps ruining all its best fights over and over and over again. Wilder-Ortiz is happening years too late as well, so expect that one to underwhelm once it happens too. The only one in recent memory that boxing didn't overmarinate was Joshua-Klitschko, and that's because they made it at the earliest opportunity, out of the blue, and didn't wait an extra minute.

But by and large, boxing is cutting itself down at the knees by waiting for all its best products to spoil before selling them to customers. And then people wonder why those consumers don't come back to shop at that store? Are you ****ing kidding me? When will boxing learn???? Such a disappointing fight! And in GGG's case, his fault or not, what a disappointing career, given how talented he was! I don't care about "title defense records," I care about quality opponents. The only quantity that matters is the quantity of fights against quality opponents. **** boxing!!! Stop defending this ****, people! That goes for the media as well. Stop being sellouts, please! The fans need you to speak on their behalf, not defend this!

Bawawawa,...... Quit crying b itch! If you don't like it don't watch it! Nobody wants to hear you crying on here!

[MDPopescu]

canelo was right there on the ropes and 3g couldnt inflict any damage.

canelo should have taken more chances at stopping 3g. that part was disappointing to me.

... all I wanted to say is that GGG held back as well... but if you didn't see that it's OK...

[Elroy The Great]

I'm a fan of both fighters!

I was torn when they fought just like when JMM fought the Pac Man.

Canelo was the younger fighter yet he was gassed by round 5!

We all knew the key to this fight was Canelo over coming GGG jab!

That did not happen?

When did we ever see Canelo moving backwards?

Or someone cutting off the ring on him?

Or Canelo getting caught on the ropes?

Maybe Canelo bulked up too much!

Muscle mass uses Oxygen which drains the blood!

Maybe he needs to train in high altitude like GGG does in Big Bear!

Or like JMM or his brother Rafael Marquez in the mountains above Mexico City!

The general consensus is that GGG won the fight!

Even when Canelo fought Mayweather he was moving forward!

i cant say im a 3g fan. i dont hate him but i dont find myself rooting for him either.

wgaf if a fighter is gassed ?!?!?! since canelo made it to the 12th, 3g wasnt able to capitalize on it. in fact, its a more of a criticism on 3g for not ending a gassed fighter.

canelo was too cautious and wasted energy/time with his moving backwards bullshlt. wtf !!!!!!! 3g was begging for the uppercut every time he threw that wideAF right.

2 out of 3 judges had it very close. 1 was ******ed. it was a close fight. wont be close in the rematch.

[Mirus]

canelo was right there on the ropes and 3g couldnt inflict any damage.

canelo should have taken more chances at stopping 3g. that part was disappointing to me.

Are you serious? If so, why did Canelo run?

[Elroy The Great]

... all I wanted to say is that GGG held back as well... but if you didn't see that it's OK...

3g threw 600 (landed 230) vs dj
avg 50 per rd (land 19 per)

300 vs brook (133)
avg 60 per (27)

549 vs lemmy (280)
avg 69 (35)

with canelo,
703 thrown (218 landed)
avg 59 (18)

i dont see any slacking off