Just get the win and move on wilder. Ppl been saying ortiz is old for couple yrs. Cubans athletes are notorious for saying they are younger than they are. Win this and go fight joshua. No more divisive play on words. In other words. Be real
Im not a fan of Klistchko you idiot, I have openly criticized him and think he has been vastly overrated. But for you to say beating an old man in Ortiz who went 12 rounds with Malik Scott and who doesnt have a list of world beaters in his record is somehow better than everything Klitstchko is quite frankly moronic.
Scott got the shyt beat out of him, Ortiz absolutely dominated him and Jennings.
Like I said, Ortiz is A level, he's more proven than Haye at HW which is by far Wlad's best W and most people consider A level. Wlad lost to the only other 2 A level guys he fought, Fury and AJ.
Beating the Wachs, Rahmans, Ibragimovs of boxing wouldn't do shyt for Wilder's resume or even Ortiz'. Wilder gets shyt on for fighting a handful of these guys but when Wlad does it he's seen as an ATG.
Wilder undefeated=joke
Wilder takes on an A level fighter at 31=joke
Wilder racks up a handful of wins against B-C level comp=joke
Wlad multiple losses to journeymen=ATG
Career defining W at 35 against a career cruiser=ATG
racks up 60 wins against B-C level fighters=ATG
loses to the 2 best fighters he's fought=ATG
I really don't understand the logic.
If Wilder beats Ortiz, it's a better W than anything Wlad has ever done. And that's just the beginning, barely 31.
Scott got the shyt beat out of him, Ortiz absolutely dominated him and Jennings.
Like I said, Ortiz is A level, he's more proven than Haye at HW which is by far Wlad's best W and most people consider A level. Wlad lost to the only other 2 A level guys he fought, Fury and AJ.
Beating the Wachs, Rahmans, Ibragimovs of boxing wouldn't do shyt for Wilder's resume or even Ortiz'. Wilder gets shyt on for fighting a handful of these guys but when Wlad does it he's seen as an ATG.
Wilder undefeated=joke
Wilder takes on an A level fighter at 31=joke
Wilder racks up a handful of wins against B-C level comp=joke
Wlad multiple losses to journeymen=ATG
Career defining W at 35 against a career cruiser=ATG
racks up 60 wins against B-C level fighters=ATG
loses to the 2 best fighters he's fought=ATG
I really don't understand the logic.
If Wilder beats Ortiz, it's a better W than anything Wlad has ever done. And that's just the beginning, barely 31.
Yeah he was in pure survival mode falling all over the place and holding, he was dominated and dropped multiple times.
Scott was arguably beating Chisora when the ref stopped the fight early, he got up at 9 but the ref pulled a typical early UK stoppage. He's not a bad fighter.
I'm not a voter at TBRB but both were ranked top 10 for a short time after losing to Wilder. Duhaupas after knocking out Robert Helenius and Molina after knocking out Tomasz Adamek.
probably in the corrupt crap wbc ratings..which is the only way u can explain Stiverne being #1 again. Neither Molina or Duhappas top 10 hw in legit ratings... ESPN/Ring Magazine/Boxing Rec...etc
Humour me then. What was your stance in each one of those scenarios?
Canelo a coward....Kov and Adonis...don't really care - Ward whipped Kov in 2nd fight... Adonis is Irrelevant.. hasn't had a significant fight in years...somehow was supposed to fight Kov, Bhop, and Pascal and all fell through - wat a coincidence!
probably in the corrupt crap wbc ratings..which is the only way u can explain Stiverne being #1 again. Neither Molina or Duhappas top 10 hw in legit ratings... ESPN/Ring Magazine/Boxing Rec...etc
ESPN is one man's opinion. The Ring is owned by Golden Boy Promotions. BoxRec is a computer.
TBRB is the only legitimate ratings source that exists today.
No surprise from haters like u,u claim certain fighters need to fight boogieman then cry when they do that they aged them despite them being undefeated.
look at Ortiz last 2 fights...says it all - old, sloppy, and slow! Prime was years ago when ko'd Jennings.
ESPN is one man's opinion. The Ring is owned by Golden Boy Promotions. BoxRec is a computer.
TBRB is the only legitimate ratings source that exists today. http://www.tbrb.org
wrong - ESPN is a panel of multiple writers/analysts...u can see it who voted for wat fighter. Ring magazine rankings still seem legit like b4 GB bought it...see no favoritism for GB fighters.
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