Comments Thread For: Wilder: I Don't Want to Hear Luis Ortiz Is Old After I Beat Him

[Ray*]

His age really doesn't matter, he has been knocking out everyone he fights and looking pretty good doing it and he is a feared heavyweight. Wilder wins by KO and should get credit for doing so.

Pretty much this ^^^^^^.

[Deus]

The Wilder haters will be running out of excuses if he defeats Ortiz. On one hand they will say that King Kong was too old, shop worn and past his prime. However if all that were true, then why didn't Anthony Joshua fight him first before Pulev; Even to the point, of running the risk of getting stripped of his WBA title just so he can avoid him?

If he can defeat one senior citizen, then why would he refuse to defeat another one? I'll tell you why. It's because unlike Wladimir Klitschko; Luis Ortiz has never been exposed. Moreover, he is too dangerous, undefeated, and punches too hard for AJ.

Probably because there was never a risk of Joshua getting stripped for fighting Pulev over Ortiz because he was mandated to fight Pulev first (hence why the WBA haven't stripped him). Nothing to do with Ortiz being too dangerous considering they were planning on facing him first quarter of 2018 anyway...

You really can't call people or for bias against Wilder when you've clearly got bias against Joshua. It's like people here are in capable of giving both fighters credit and have to try and discredit one over the other.

Btw: Wilder will deserve credit for taking the Ortiz fight and will deserve more credit if he wins too. Should make the Wilder v Joshua fight even bigger too.

[Patsfan bri]

His age really doesn't matter, he has been knocking out everyone he fights and looking pretty good doing it and he is a feared heavyweight. Wilder wins by KO and should get credit for doing so.

[Derranged]

Ortiz IS old.

I'll give Wilder credit if he wins, but I don't think he will. He's got power but he couldn't box oranges. It will all boil down to how well Ortiz handles his power. If he can't knock Ortiz out, I can't picture him winning.

[uppercut510]

too late they already have their excuse to discredit you bro

[alexguiness]

Ortiz is old AF.

But...

If he turns up in shape and fights to the best of his ability then Wilder should get props for KO'ing him.

[Fabes88]

The reality of it is over 60 of Wlad's opponents have been B-C level opponents. The 2 A level opponents he fought, he lost to.
He also lost to 3 C level fighters.

He didn't fight an A level fighter until he was 35 years old around 15 years into his career, and Haye being A level is arguable because he barely got past Valuev and couldn't even crack Bellew's chin.


The double standard on here is funny, Wlad racks up 60+ wins over B-C level competition, loses to the best guys he faced, loses to journeymen=legend

Wilder fights B-C level competition a handful of times=bum squad.

Barely 31, 11 years of total boxing experience and already facing tougher opponents than either Klitschko did at this age.

The fact you are comparing the david haye that fought bellew to the one that fought wladmir shows your bias. You honestly should be ashamed of yourself I don't even know you and I'm very disappointed in you.

[wrecksracer]

Nah that's just a lame excuse man. Fact is Lennox won the fight by sniping that eye to death.

Provodnikov had Algieri in a similar situation with the eye, he kept trying to snipe that eye for the rest of the fight but Algieri skillfully avoided further damage to the eye throughout the rest of the fight.

So either Lennox had the skill to snipe that eye to death when he realised that it damaged, or Vitali didn't have the defensive acumen to avoid further damage to the eye.

From what I saw it was both. So enough with the lame excuses. Vitali got TKFO, end of story.

No ifs, buts, coulds will change anything because that's all just make belief.

Anyway Wilder vs Ortiz should be a great fight for as long as it lasts. Someone getting KTFO though that's for sure.

That was a TKO, not a TKFO lol. Once again, Credit to Lennox, but he sure didn't like his chances in a rematch. Regarding Wilder/Ortiz, I would be shocked if there isn't multiple knockdowns. Hope it's a great fight.

[Cutthroat]

The fact you are comparing the david haye that fought bellew to the one that fought wladmir shows your bias. You honestly should be ashamed of yourself I don't even know you and I'm very disappointed in you.

The same Haye that barely got passed Valuev is the same Haye that fought Wlad. Hard to call a guy A level when he put up similar performances to Ruiz/Holyfield and his best wins were at cruiser. What made him A level at HW? Gate keeper Chisora? Monte Barrett? Barely getting past Valuev?

Bellew is not a HW and came in very soft, still he was taking flush power shots from Haye. He had 5 rounds until he tore his achilles and Bellew was taking flush power shots. If Bellew could take flush shots I'm pretty sure Wilder, Joshua, Ortiz etc. could take his power no problem.

[LetOutTheCage]

The reality of it is over 60 of Wlad's opponents have been B-C level opponents. The 2 A level opponents he fought, he lost to.
He also lost to 3 C level fighters.

He didn't fight an A level fighter until he was 35 years old around 15 years into his career, and Haye being A level is arguable because he barely got past Valuev and couldn't even crack Bellew's chin.


The double standard on here is funny, Wlad racks up 60+ wins over B-C level competition, loses to the best guys he faced, loses to journeymen=legend

Wilder fights B-C level competition a handful of times=bum squad.

Barely 31, 11 years of total boxing experience and already facing tougher opponents than either Klitschko did at this age.

Im not a fan of Klistchko you idiot, I have openly criticized him and think he has been vastly overrated. But for you to say beating an old man in Ortiz who went 12 rounds with Malik Scott and who doesnt have a list of world beaters in his record is somehow better than everything Klitstchko is quite frankly moronic.