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  • #21
    Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
    Even when canelo took breaks and went to the ropes, ggg did nothing! So what's that say about the great puncher ggg? Canelo have him chances, I'll tell you why ggg did nothing. He was scared to get caught coming in as he was getting caught all night. Canelo outboxed ggg all night long.
    GGG didn't "do nothing." He connected tons of hard jabs, but missed tons of rights because of Canelo's defensive skills and because of GGG's robotic tactics. GGG could never figure out any tactic to be able to connect his devastating right overhand.

    They both missed a lot. Canelo was the one who connected the more clear and hard punches, but GGG walked through all Canelo's pundhes. Those punches could have knocked down or out a super-middleweight. Or a B-class middleweight. But not a top-level middleweight with an insane chin like GGG.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by sterilizer View Post
      GGG didn't "do nothing." He connected tons of hard jabs, but missed tons of rights because of Canelo's defensive skills and because of GGG's robotic tactics. GGG could never figure out any tactic to be able to connect his devastating right overhand.

      They both missed a lot. Canelo was the one who connected the more clear and hard punches, but GGG walked through all Canelo's pundhes. Those punches could have knocked down or out a super-middleweight. Or a B-class middleweight. But not a top-level middleweight with an insane chin like GGG.
      So you give more credit to jabs than power punches? Sorry man I don't. Jab is the easiest punch to land... canelo out jabbed ggg in the first half of the fight anyway

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
        Look diegito, I understand what everyone thinks. I know what I saw. Watch it again... Canelo won 5 out of the first 6 round if not all of them and won the last three... that leaves the 7th 8th and 9th which were all close. Ggg looked slow, couldn't adjust to canelos counter punching and even when canelo took breaks, sat on the ropes to challenge the God puncher, ggg didn't do ANYTHING!!! At all. I don't really care for what media and other people say. I know what I saw. Watch it again, canelo was even out jabbing ggg the first half of fight till he got tired, landed the harder shots, made ggg miss all night, had the better body work, ggg put more pressure and jabbed a lot more, that's what makes him win? Going forward and jabbing, hitting 1 out of 7 jabs he throws? Na bro, I ain't buying it... Canelo won
        Yeah I mean it's sad how "in the minority" this opinion is. Anyone with boxing sense knows what happened.

        Canelo made GGG miss often with jabs, rights, and hooks while landing the cleaner work all night long. MAKING your opponent miss is a skill and plays a role in how a round is scored.

        Props to GGG for eating a boatload of shots and KEEP coming forward, but no fighter should get free points for being an easy target so long as they "keep coming". GGG's jab was his best scoring punch, but even that didn't make much of a difference in the fight. I can count on 2 or 3 fingers the number of influential punches GGG landed the entire fight.

        Meanwhile Canelo landed the cleaner shots and, although fought on the move for the majority of the fight, defended beautifully and countered with very clean punches. Canelo was moving UP in weight so his power didn't translate at 160 as well as it had been at 154/155. Nevertheless I saw GGG get hurt on a couple of occasions, but GGG not only has an iron chin but the heart of a lion also.

        Canelo won 8-4 on my card and 7-5 if being generous to GGG for trying.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
          So you give more credit to jabs than power punches? Sorry man I don't. Jab is the easiest punch to land... canelo out jabbed ggg in the first half of the fight anyway
          If it was an easy punch, all boxers would be good at jabbing. But very few are. Let's be honest, Canelo has always totally ****** at jabbing. Just look at his stats. vs. Lara. Or anyone else for that matter. Stamina and jabbing are big issues for him. GGG is the opposite.

          I think Compubox is rubbish, but let's assume they are correct this specific time. According to that, both fighters landed about the same number of power punches, but GGG landed like three more times the jabs than Canelo did. And most of them were power jabs, because GGG jabs almost like throwing a straight power punch, just like the Klitschkos did. That is a big difference.
          Last edited by sterilizer; 09-20-2017, 01:06 AM.

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          • #25
            ****** Motha****as forgot Dallas is a major Mexican city. Them Austin Trout scorecards were insane!

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            • #26
              Originally posted by sterilizer View Post
              GGG didn't "do nothing." He connected tons of hard jabs, but missed tons of rights because of Canelo's defensive skills and because of GGG's robotic tactics. GGG could never figure out any tactic to be able to connect his devastating right overhand.

              They both missed a lot. Canelo was the one who connected the more clear and hard punches, but GGG walked through all Canelo's pundhes. Those punches could have knocked down or out a super-middleweight. Or a B-class middleweight. But not a top-level middleweight with an insane chin like GGG.
              What made GGG's jabs "hard jabs"? Canelo didn't seem bothered by them at all so why are they considered "hard"? And what does it matter if they were weak or strong? What matters is GGG's jab did not change the outcome of the fight. It didn't really keep Canelo at bay and was only used strategically a couple of times (with success) to interrupt Canelo combinations.

              Canelo's counter-punches, which were largely power shots, landed very flush and by most accounts were considered "hard shots" although they did not seriously injure GGG. However, make no mistake, GGG felt those bombs. Since his chin hasn't cracked yet he doesn't know any better, but when that time comes fighters opt to "be smart" over "being tough".

              Also, who cares that neither got hurt each other? Canelo outboxed GGG and since this was a BOXING match...kudos to Canelo for winning. Excellent effort by GGG though

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Bjl12 View Post
                Yeah I mean it's sad how "in the minority" this opinion is. Anyone with boxing sense knows what happened.

                Canelo made GGG miss often with jabs, rights, and hooks while landing the cleaner work all night long. MAKING your opponent miss is a skill and plays a role in how a round is scored.

                Props to GGG for eating a boatload of shots and KEEP coming forward, but no fighter should get free points for being an easy target so long as they "keep coming". GGG's jab was his best scoring punch, but even that didn't make much of a difference in the fight. I can count on 2 or 3 fingers the number of influential punches GGG landed the entire fight.

                Meanwhile Canelo landed the cleaner shots and, although fought on the move for the majority of the fight, defended beautifully and countered with very clean punches. Canelo was moving UP in weight so his power didn't translate at 160 as well as it had been at 154/155. Nevertheless I saw GGG get hurt on a couple of occasions, but GGG not only has an iron chin but the heart of a lion also.

                Canelo won 8-4 on my card and 7-5 if being generous to GGG for trying.
                Agreed my friend. Canelo was the better man that night and if there is a rematch, it will be even more clear. The narrative according to all ggg fans going into the fight was that if it was close ggg would be robbed... it seemed it was close so it seems to them he got robbed. Fact is ggg isn't the monster everyone thought he was and he was outboxed all night. He supposed to be the power puncher but canelo landed more power shots and more telling shots

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                • #28
                  If they can sell an average ticket price of $300 or more in those 100k seats I'm sure they will seriously consider it. If they can't then they won't cuz they can get $30M in gate or more for the rematch + money from MGM for bringing the fight back I'm sure.

                  Thats the reality with these big fights & thats why these big fights almost always land in Vegas if Vegas wants it.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
                    I don't wanna see the rematch no more! Nothing to prove, canelo outboxed ggg all night! If canelo fights him against and beats him more convincingly, he won't get credit because they will say ggg was old as they were already planning to say anyway... ggg is not on canelos level. Not even close!
                    Buahahaha...so funny...is this canelo fan really believe that canelo school ggg?hahaha...compubox, lederman, boxing expert, analysts, pro boxer, all said ggg won..but you?you are so funny,..dont trying to hard to embrace your self...hwhahaha

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                    • #30
                      Some Canelo fans are so blinded or plain ****** by saying Canelo won, when GGG was the aggressor of the fight and outlanded him around 50 more punches stats don't lie...

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