Comments Thread For: Saunders Now Hoping To Have Unification With Golovkin

[Robbie Barrett]

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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
So, are you saying you don't want GGG to be active? Or are you skeered for your hero? Fighters usually duck GGG. THIS guy wants to fight him. How is that a bad thing? The guy is a great boxer, and GGG has trouble with that style. I say test him. What's he got to lose besides a few belts? He's the boogyman, right? Then let him fight a guy who wants to fight him.



Keep laughing. Your hero GGG made a joke of himself with his weak ring cutting this past weekend. All he did was run after Canelo, no skill in cutting off the ring. Plus he isn't as fast as Saunders. But like I said... keep laughing. GGG isn't God, isn't invincible. Saunders may or may not win... but one thing is certain, he'd embarrass GGG for several rounds.

You think Golovkin is my hero?

[JK Boxing]

I think if BJS is serious of fighting GGG in December , then GGG should take it, because Canelo will not fight until May or will even try to delay for later ...

[Lopez_Boxing]

SMH......yeah he'll hit him twice as hard and GGG will actually throw bodyshots this time. Oh, maybe Candelita already hit him as hard as he could?

Mayweather was better Castillo 2. Ward was better kolov 2. It's possible that they go into the second fight with a different game plan after becoming more familiar with their opponent. I'm pretty sure they both hit each other as hard as they could. I'm sure they were in the ring to win. Or no they faked the fight? SMH

[PunchyPotorff]

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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
So, are you saying you don't want GGG to be active? Or are you skeered for your hero? Fighters usually duck GGG. THIS guy wants to fight him. How is that a bad thing? The guy is a great boxer, and GGG has trouble with that style. I say test him. What's he got to lose besides a few belts? He's the boogyman, right? Then let him fight a guy who wants to fight him.

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Originally Posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
:rofl...........

Keep laughing. Your hero GGG made a joke of himself with his weak ring cutting this past weekend. All he did was run after Canelo, no skill in cutting off the ring. Plus he isn't as fast as Saunders. But like I said... keep laughing. GGG isn't God, isn't invincible. Saunders may or may not win... but one thing is certain, he'd embarrass GGG for several rounds.

You think Golovkin is my hero?

Oh sorry friend, that would be Floydie, eh? LOL!

[angkag]

Well then shiii, squire, none of us need to ever watch live fights again, since you obviously have it all figured out. LOL!

But just one issue... if Saunders isn't a good boxer, then GGG DEFINITELY is shiii at cutting off the ring. Geez friend, we saw that a few days ago vs Canelo.

You are partially correct, in that we never need to watch a live fight again that has Billy Joe in it (if we like boxing). Did you see the 'fight' against Monroe ? I was writing a commentary for some guys who couldn't get a stream, here's a snippet rounds 7-10:

think Saunders outstank Monroe in the 7th, so monroe round....but stopping caring I think

Saunders wins 8th.....got a new oxymoron 'Saunders powerpunch'

Saunders wins 9th, I think, I nodded off a bit in the middle.......is there a WFOTY category ? (Worst Fight of...)

Saunders gets 10th I think.......bindings come loose on Saunders gloves, most exciting part of fight so far

As far as if Saunders isn't a good boxer than GGG is **** at cutting of the ring, how do those two go together ? Canelo IS a good boxer and GGG IS good at cutting off the ring (don't listen to me, just read the opinions of anyone who knows boxing). Saunders would find he had nowhere to run within the first two and the fight would be his ability to fight off the ropes. Canelo could do it, BJS can't as he doesn't have Canelo's skill set.

[bronx7]

Take that belt ggg be first totally unified mw champ since Hopkins and tie defense record then break it after then say Canella are you a mw I have everything are you going to exercise rematch clause bi t $&

[GhostofDempsey]

I really think GGG needs to fight in December. He needs to stay active, he was better when he was fighting 3 or 4 fights per year, staying in shape and staying sharp. Take the Saunders fight, unify the division, and rematch Canelo in May. No-brainer, so long as BJS doesn't price himself out with some ridiculous demands.

[angkag]

If Saunders wins GGG by UD, I won't be surprised. Saunders is very slick, fast and skilled boxer. Slow and old GGG can't cope with speed of BJS. You can't ignore that GGG is 35 already, he can't compete with young skilled boxers over times. He was naturally slow boxer and at his 35 he is slow as hell. He beat Canelo because Canelo was only running during rounds 4-9. I think if Canelo tried to attack instead of running then he would win. Canelo looked stronger than GGG. In the rematch Canelo wins by KO because GGG will be 36 or 37 . Too old, too weak. It is very sad there was no elite opposition when GGG was young.

Saunders very slick, fast and skilled ? Who was that guy in with Monroe the other night ? I saw no elite skills at all.

Golovkin is 35 and might be showing signs of decline, but he started late in the pro ranks at 25, so is a young 35. What we saw with Jacobs/Canelo is that you need elite skills in one or more departments to compete with him. Jacobs and Canelo both had one thing in common, which was the ability to land hurtful shots on Golovkin if he made a mistake, and the skill to deliver those punches (where Lemoo didn't). This kept him from just marching forward like a wrecking ball until the other guy broke down.

If you have any doubts about Golovkin's ability to cut the ring off, please direct me to the round and moment where Canelo got a chance to rest a bit other than when he was on the ropes. What kept Golovkin a 1/2 pace back when Canelo was on the ropes was just the threat of the uppercut, so Golovkin's punches had to travel just that little bit further and Canelo's defence did the rest.

Jacobs kept off the ropes as he was able to keep moving for large portions of the fight and had the punch that made sure Golovkin had to think his way in a lot more than before.

BJS has none of the skills to avoid being bullied to the ropes and beaten down there. What value his speed if Golovkin can just ignore his punches and focus entirely on sitting down on his punches to Saunders body ? What else can Saunders do but back up to the ropes - then what does he do ? He doesn't have Canelo's uppercut to keep Golovkin from his preferred distance, and doesn't have Canelo's defence to keep off the beat-down that ensues.

Canelo may indeed crack the nut in the rematch, but BJS would just be a stay-warm type affair, maybe to try a few different things just for fun.

[PunchyPotorff]

You are partially correct, in that we never need to watch a live fight again that has Billy Joe in it (if we like boxing). Did you see the 'fight' against Monroe ? I was writing a commentary for some guys who couldn't get a stream, here's a snippet rounds 7-10:

think Saunders outstank Monroe in the 7th, so monroe round....but stopping caring I think

Saunders wins 8th.....got a new oxymoron 'Saunders powerpunch'

Saunders wins 9th, I think, I nodded off a bit in the middle.......is there a WFOTY category ? (Worst Fight of...)

Saunders gets 10th I think.......bindings come loose on Saunders gloves, most exciting part of fight so far

As far as if Saunders isn't a good boxer than GGG is **** at cutting of the ring, how do those two go together ? Canelo IS a good boxer and GGG IS good at cutting off the ring (don't listen to me, just read the opinions of anyone who knows boxing). Saunders would find he had nowhere to run within the first two and the fight would be his ability to fight off the ropes. Canelo could do it, BJS can't as he doesn't have Canelo's skill set.

I don't need to read opinions, I can see GGG has a lot to learn in cutting off the ring. As for Saunders, let's see it then. No reason to not have it, whether you think Saunders is boring or not. You seem to think he gets KOd in a few rounds, so your wish comes true.

[angkag]

I don't need to read opinions, I can see GGG has a lot to learn in cutting off the ring. As for Saunders, let's see it then. No reason to not have it, whether you think Saunders is boring or not. You seem to think he gets KOd in a few rounds, so your wish comes true.

If you can see that Golovkin has a lot to learn about cutting off the ring, you need to start writing to the people at the ring magazine and others that write stuff like:

He displays an effortless ability to cut-off the ring that is unparalleled in the modern game.

Sounds like they need a real expert to teach them they are full of it.

The Saunders/Monroe fight WAS boring - did you see it ? It wasn't just Saunders fault, it was Monroe too, both were dismal, but if Saunders was the real deal he would have made that look like a mismatch, which he failed to do. The Monroe that fought Golovkin still had some self-belief, maybe Golovkin took that away, don't know, but the Monroe we've seen against Rosado and now Saunders was just a shell.

Styles make fights, and Jacobs and Canelo showed what you need to compete with Golovkin. If you had Jacobs size, foot movement, power and stamina combined with Canelo's hand speed, combinations and defence, Golovkin would be toast. But Saunders doesn't have the size, foot movement, power, stamina, combos or defence. He's left with some speed that diminishes around round 5, even when fighting a statue like Monroe. How is his stamina going to stand up to non-stop pressure from Golovkin ?

I didn't include my round 5 commentary, but it included 'Saunders getting ragged', ie he gassed without ever being under any pressure at all.

Saunders just stands zero chance with Golovkin, and the only way I look at the fight tbh is that it might give Golovkin a psychological boost to feast on some raw meat again prior to going in tough with Canelo again.

It could even be a 1st round ko as Saunders will go down and stay down if he catches that same shot Brook ate in round 1. Brook's got a pretty good chin (albeit weak cheekbones).