Who looks better coming off the draw? GGG or Canelo

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  • Metho_4u
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    #41
    Originally posted by g27region
    Golovkin will probably lose the rematch, but the fact remains, Canelo at the peak of his physical conditions looked worse than 35 y.o guy, and he's far from being that master technician who was supposed to take Golovkin to school according to some people

    I was betting on Canelo to outbox Golovkin and win wide UD in NSB Pick Em game, because I've bought into the hype, and now some of his ******ed ass fans owe me something since the guy couldn't even get a clear victory. I'm mad lol
    Regardless, he's still the superior boxer, but yes, his conditioning needs work.

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    • Jubei
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      #42
      1.) A 35 year old GGG did what he promised, he brought a big show and fought like a Mexican, a primed Canelo fought like a poor man's Mayweather.

      2.) GGG got a draw vs the cashcow of the sport in Las Vegas (means its a clear win)

      3.) The huge majority of media outlets/journalists scored it for Golovkin.

      4.) The huge majority of the fans worldwide said Golovkin won.

      5.) Canelo was booed by his own fans in the arena.

      Who do you think came out better?

      You decide.


      I still give props to Canelo, in some rounds he did some good work and he has a great chin.
      Last edited by Jubei; 09-18-2017, 09:39 AM.

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      • g27region
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        #43
        Originally posted by Metho_4u
        Regardless, he's still the superior boxer, but yes, his conditioning needs work.
        It doesn't matter how good your skills are, if you can't impose them on your opponent

        Canelo's style based on spending a lot of energy, he fights in spurts and takes long breaks between them, he looked impressive in these short spurts with better handspeed and good combos, but most of the time Golovkin was controlling pace and distance of the fight, especially with that jab.

        Canelo got tired and Golovkin wasn't even targeting his body at all, he was headhunting. Think about it

        Imagine if it was some fighter with vicious body work like Errol Spence? Canelo would be ruined and even Byrd wouldn't be able to save his ginger ass

        Originally posted by Jubei
        a primed Canelo fought like a poor man's Mayweather.
        Some of these posters thought Canelo is next Rigondeaux or something lol
        Last edited by g27region; 09-18-2017, 09:49 AM.

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        • club fighter
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          #44
          The one with the belts.

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          • muslimer12
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            #45
            The person who got booed by his own fans was the loser

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            • Citizen Koba
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              #46
              Originally posted by Metho_4u
              All these guys deserve to get paid, it's still a health risk, I recognize that. So if it's a lucrative payday for tens of millions, yeah of course. Let's be honest though. Until Canelo officially moved up, was 160 a lucrative division? No, they waited and waited for a jmw to move up instead of just going to SMW. Fighting DeGale or Groves in the UK? They would've been highly lucrative.
              I could go into the timelines etc and explain that it really ain't that clear cut, but I'm quite sure you've heard all the arguments before, just as I've heard those that I'm sure you'll counter with. Suffice to say that IMO at least Golovkin has had a career trajectory and history of risk/reward decisions that is very much in line with that of other fighters. He is not and never was some kind of 'saviour of boxing' as some of his more extreme fans would have had us believe, but neither is he the villian and completely manufactured hype-job that others would. Honestly I can't really see what there is to dislike about the guy, but then maybe I'm just a particularly agreeable person 'cos there ain't really any fighters I actually actively dislike... except Slava Glazkov, of course. Can't stand that bland fucker.

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              • Metho_4u
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                #47
                Originally posted by g27region
                It doesn't matter how good your skills are, if you can't impose them on your opponent

                Canelo's style based on spending a lot of energy, he fights in spurts and takes long breaks between them, he looked impressive in these short spurts with better handspeed and good combos, but most of the time Golovkin was controlling pace and distance of the fight, especially with that jab.

                Canelo got tired and Golovkin wasn't even targeting his body at all, he was headhunting. Think about it

                Imagine if it was some fighter with vicious body work like Errol Spence? Canelo would be ruined and even Byrd wouldn't be able to save his ginger ass



                Some of these posters thought Canelo is next Rigondeaux or something lol
                Golovkin didn't use bodywork, there was a reason why. Throw low and you have a higher chance to get countered. If there's a rematch, golovkins going out. Spence is a 147 lb fighter and is irrelevant to the conversation.

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                • g27region
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Metho_4u
                  Golovkin didn't use bodywork, there was a reason why. Throw low and you have a higher chance to get countered. If there's a rematch, golovkins going out. Spence is a 147 lb fighter and is irrelevant to the conversation.
                  Golovkin wasn't attacking the body even when he had the opportunity. He was headhunting with Jacobs too

                  I'm not talking about Spence, I'm talking about any fighter with similar body work abilities. A legit middleweight with Spence's style would destroy Canelo. He was lucky that Golovkin isn't so versatile

                  What would be irrelevant is speculating on what happens in a rematch, because I've heard all that stuff about Canelo giving Golovkin a boxing lesson before the first fight and I was ****** enough to believe that, now you basically say let's give the guy one more chance to beat Golovkin while that mother****er aging, and if he won't, we'll give him another shot. But right here and right now Canelo with his ****ty stamina looked worse than the older man. We're talking about what already happened, not about what could possibly happen in the future
                  Last edited by g27region; 09-18-2017, 11:45 AM.

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                  • Bad_Guy
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by muslimer12
                    The person who got booed by his own fans was the loser
                    He gets to avoid an official L though. However, getting booed by your own fans must be embarrassing as ****. It was funny seeing Canelo say he won 7-8 rounds with tears in his eyes.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by FrankieBruno
                      GGG looked very average in there
                      Lol, well then just what did the diva look like running away from the guy he couldn't faze? My guess is he looked like a scared lil biatch.

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