Comments Thread For: Golovkin-Canelo and The Predictable Controversy

[Rock&Roll]

I don't think that approach would work for Golovkin

plus, Canelo is really skilled..... sitting back brings more of his offence into play

Golovkin was probably correct keeping him off the front foot as much as possible

Golovkin needs to be triple-G, just better

rematch will be cool

You are speculating, which if fine but you don't know that.

Anyway, you are missing my point, which is the fact that scoring even rounds should lean towards the agressive fighter pushing the action. This will entice boxers to push the action more, giving us a better qaulity fights. Being defensive is the way to win, floyd proved that.
Thing is, if everyone is defensive we end up with a boring sport.
Judging needs to act as a counter balance, encouraging peple to press the action.

This has happened in the UFC, why do people even fight standing up in there?
It was proven years ago by Royce Gracie the most effective way to win is by submission, rather than bashing each other in the head for 5 rounds. Thing is, rolling around on the ground for 25 minutes isn't exciting to watch for casuals, so they have manipulated the natural progression of mixed martial arts to support their buisness and make exciting fights.

ACTUALLY...WE ARE ALL OFF TOPIC!!!!!
When the f-ck is Adelaide Byrd getting sacked mr Bob Bennett????
When does the investigation start and who will lead it?

[aboutfkntime]

You are speculating, which if fine but you don't know that.

Anyway, you are missing my point, which is the fact that scoring even rounds should lean towards the agressive fighter pushing the action. This will entice boxers to push the action more, giving us a better qaulity fights. Being defensive is the way to win, floyd proved that.
Thing is, if everyone is defensive we end up with a boring sport.
Judging needs to act as a counter balance, encouraging peple to press the action.

This has happened in the UFC, why do people even fight standing up in there?
It was proven years ago by Royce Gracie the most effective way to win is by submission, rather than bashing each other in the head for 5 rounds. Thing is, rolling around on the ground for 25 minutes isn't exciting to watch for casuals, so they have manipulated the natural progression of mixed martial arts to support their buisness and make exciting fights.

ACTUALLY...WE ARE ALL OFF TOPIC!!!!!
When the f-ck is Adelaide Byrd getting sacked mr Bob Bennett????
When does the investigation start and who will lead it?

no, that is absolute rubbish

it used to be that way

TV networks spawned ruling for the guy going forward..... in an attempt to encourage dummy-boxing..... or rock-em-sock-em robot boxing..... so that fat lazy yanks - who have little appreciation for the sweet science anyway - did not have to get up off the sofa in order to watch a good bar-room brawl

sorry but that is utter ignorance, I feel very strongly about that

any rule that favors one style over the other..... is fkn absurd

anything that waters-down, dilutes, or weakens the art of boxing as a whole, cannot be viewed in a good light

if you cannot endure a good boxing match, then switch to MMA, maybe they score like that over there..... no idea

[aboutfkntime]

the very thing that first drew me to this sport was the ability of a smaller man, to beat a bigger man, simply because he is better

I remember watching this big black dude beating the dog**** out of this smaller black dude. we were upstairs in a TV room above an old garage and I remember being shocked by the violence, it seemed like the little dude was getting belted all over the ring and the drunken men were all yelling and screaming

it was amazing that the little guy won the fight, the most amazing thing I had ever seen. I wrote his name down in my book, then later lost the book and forgot his name

but yea, Leonard/Hearns I..... watched it since then of course, many times..... it doesn't seem like the same fight I remember back then

but yea, lets change the rules and make it a tough-guy contest

I actually have a fix.... networks should air more club-fights

fighters just need to be evenly/well-matched to produce an entertaining scrap..... and with lower-level guys you see more KO's, the punchers tend to catch up with the boxers more often than not, and the action is often more sustained in 4-round club fights

a lot of viewers likely prefer shorter/faster-paced fights

I dunno, but scoring for the guy going forward is everything that is wrong with the world today..... MONEY

money fk's EVERYTHING, including sport

haha, sorry for ripping you a new one Rock&Roll, I got carried away, that was a bit ott

this is not about Golovkin/Canelo..... Canelo did not get a clean win over Golovkin imho, and I never said he did..... leave the art of boxing as it is, rather than fk around with it to appease the 8-minute attention span of someone who isn't really sure what he is watching anyway

[Rock&Roll]

no, that is absolute rubbish

it used to be that way

TV networks spawned ruling for the guy going forward..... in an attempt to encourage dummy-boxing..... or rock-em-sock-em robot boxing..... so that fat lazy yanks - who have little appreciation for the sweet science anyway - did not have to get up off the sofa in order to watch a good bar-room brawl

sorry but that is utter ignorance, I feel very strongly about that

any rule that favors one style over the other..... is fkn absurd

anything that waters-down, dilutes, or weakens the art of boxing as a whole, cannot be viewed in a good light

if you cannot endure a good boxing match, then switch to MMA, maybe they score like that over there..... no idea

Being agressive is NOT a style, it's a disposition. Outside fighters can be aggressive and inside fighters can be defensive.

You should watch amateur boxing, not professional boxing.
How many time have you been told PRO BOXING IS A BUSINESS!!?!?!

What does a business do?
A business either provides a product or service.
Next question: what service is boxing providing as a business.
Answer: ENTERTAINMENT

When paying $6000, $2000 or $100 a ticket to watch pro boxing, one expects entertainment. They don't pay that to go and watch a chess match as chess is not entertaining.

Amateur boxing is a sport, hence why you don't get paid. I enjoy watching and attending amateur boxing events (went to many boxing sessions at the rio olympics) as i know what to expect...boxing as a sport, not boxing as entertainment.

I've had many fights and appreciate the sweet science but i also appreciate the difference between business and sport.
It's prohibited in pro boxing to wear a head guard, even if both boxers wanted to. Why is this? Its not coincidence.
It's mandatory in amateurs to wear a head guard, even if both boxer didn't want to. Why is this? It's not coincidence.
We could get rid of the cutmen too, as this is a sport and you don't want to see any blood.

Maybe the pro boxers can start using amateur type gloves with circle on the end of the gloves too, to be sure that the punch hit in the correct spot of the glove.

I respect your difference in opinion, but we will have to agree to disagree on this one as i am also firm on my stance.

[aboutfkntime]

Being agressive is NOT a style, it's a disposition. Outside fighters can be aggressive and inside fighters can be defensive.

You should watch amateur boxing, not professional boxing.
How many time have you been told PRO BOXING IS A BUSINESS!!?!?!

What does a business do?
A business either provides a product or service.
Next question: what service is boxing providing as a business.
Answer: ENTERTAINMENT

When paying $6000, $2000 or $100 a ticket to watch pro boxing, one expects entertainment. They don't pay that to go and watch a chess match as chess is not entertaining.

Amateur boxing is a sport, hence why you don't get paid. I enjoy watching and attending amateur boxing events (went to many boxing sessions at the rio olympics) as i know what to expect...boxing as a sport, not boxing as entertainment.

I've had many fights and appreciate the sweet science but i also appreciate the difference between business and sport.
It's prohibited in pro boxing to wear a head guard, even if both boxers wanted to. Why is this? Its not coincidence.
It's mandatory in amateurs to wear a head guard, even if both boxer didn't want to. Why is this? It's not coincidence.
We could get rid of the cutmen too, as this is a sport and you don't want to see any blood.

Maybe the pro boxers can start using amateur type gloves with circle on the end of the gloves too, to be sure that the punch hit in the correct spot of the glove.

I respect your difference in opinion, but we will have to agree to disagree on this one as i am also firm on my stance.

scoring for a fighter, simply because he has a come-forward "disposition"/style/whatever..... is ridiculous

that should not even be close to scoring criteria

let's agree to disagree

your assertion - no matter how you paint it - it that one style should be preferred over another to the judges..... which is absurd

#defencewinschampionships

[BennyBlanco]

Canelo basically took the first 4 rounds, Golovkin won Round 5, Golovkin maybe won Round 6, Alvarez edge Round 7, 8 was close, Alvarez won Round 9 and 10, 11 was close, and Alvarez won the 12th going away.

Give Golovkin both questionable rounds, and you'd still have a 7-5 Alvarez score.

118-110 was definitely a terrible card but y'all are ridiculous.

Round 7 was easily Golovkin's best round of the fight, and you gave that to Alvarez???

And in round 8, Golovkin outlanded Canelo by a bigger margin than any other round...but that one goes to Canelo too?

Are you related to Adelaide Byrd?

[Scipio2009]

Round 7 was easily Golovkin's best round of the fight, and you gave that to Alvarez???

And in round 8, Golovkin outlanded Canelo by a bigger margin than any other round...but that one goes to Canelo too?

Are you related to Adelaide Byrd?

Simply walking forward and letting punches bounce off of your face isn't something I'm going to simply reward; the round was clearly closer, but I rewarded Canelo's cleaner work.

[aboutfkntime]

Simply walking forward and letting punches bounce off of your face isn't something I'm going to simply reward; the round was clearly closer, but I rewarded Canelo's cleaner work.

yep.......

Na. I just favor clean, effective punching over chasing a guy around the ring, missing most of the **** I throw, and getting tattooed in the process.