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  • #21
    Originally posted by Mike D View Post
    Totally different. Manny was ineffective with his aggression. He was swinging mostly at air. Golovkin was effective. He bullied Canelo's ass. Walked his ass down. Landed more in the majority of the rounds and to top it off blew Canelo's ass out in total shots landed. And I didn't need f**king compubox to tell me that, either. All I needed was a pair of eyes.
    Exactly. GGG was clearly the aggressor, and he also landed shots consistently, altho he missed some, unlike Pac who was hitting air most of the time.

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    • #22
      Scored it 115-113 for Canelo

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Mike D View Post
        Totally different. Manny was ineffective with his aggression. He was swinging mostly at air. Golovkin was effective. He bullied Canelo's ass. Walked his ass down. Landed more in the majority of the rounds and to top it off blew Canelo's ass out in total shots landed. And I didn't need f**king compubox to tell me that, either. All I needed was a pair of eyes.
        I can easily see a GGG win, but he was missing the majority of his punches. His most effective punch was his jab. Walking someone down usually means coming straight at them and wearing them down with power shots. GGG was missing most of his punches. He wasn't wearing him down. Canelo's defense was very good. In terms of hard power punches, Canelo definitely had the edge. He'd just take 20 or 30s off here and there and let GGG control the activity, but he wasn't getting hit much. Canelo looked tired, like he does in every single one of his fights.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by otrocubiche View Post
          So, you saw Lara beat canelo doing the same thing, right?
          Canelo landed 8 heads shots on Lara bruh not the same

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          • #25
            GGG beat Canelo. Get over it.

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            • #26
              It's not about activity or coming forward, it's about controlling the distance and pace of the fight, and Canelo damn sure wasn't controlling anything. He was taking long breaks after his spurts, and yes he looked great in some episodes but most of the time he was doing nothing but reserving energy for another spurt. No way you can win, fighting like this. You can't compare him to fighters like Floyd or Rigo, they're able to neutralize activity of their opponents and Canelo wasn't able to. That's why Jacobs did better than Canelo with the exception of KD, he didn't let Golovkin dictate the distance or pace of the fight

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              • #27
                1 power shot from ggg is like equal to 5 canelo power shots. whatever ggg hit canelo put the ginger in survival mode, so i'd say ggg's punches were more effective. One could argue that golovkin's jab acted like a power shot.

                It's not just clean eye catching punches that count, it's also how the other fighter is affected by punches as well. Ggg neutralized canelo's attack with his power, the ginger wilted for the majority of the fight.

                I don't hate a draw, but it's still a bad score imo..

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                • #28
                  activity and coming forward does not win you fights of course.. (in this case also landing more punches in nearly every round does though)


                  regardless it was a very competitive fight with a pretty clear winner in golovkin. that being said did he look particularly good doing it, i guess not but most consider canelo to be a top fighter in the world right? isn't it impressive to beat a top pfp at all in the first place? i think people expect a lot from GGG

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Boxnation fan View Post
                    The Narrative of this Fight for those that had GGG winning seems to be based on his Activity, Workrate and because he was the Fighter who appeared to be coming Forward.

                    The Problem with that Narrative is there's a difference between Effective Aggression where you're the Fighter coming forward and landing the more telling, harder punches and the Real Narrative of this Fight which was GGG throwing lots of Punches and coming forward but Missing with most of his Punches and being countered by Harder more explosive punches from Canelo.

                    Canelo won the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Rounds based on him landing the Better Cleaner Punches.

                    I did think GGG won rounds 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 due to Canelo not being as effective with his punches or landing as cleanly as he did in RDS 1-3 especially to the body so after 9 rounds i had GGG WINNING this fight 6-3 and i thought he would go on to win the fight comfortably.

                    Canelo had a second wind though and won the 10th, 11th and 12th based on Cleaner Crisper Punching. His activity wasn't at the same level as GGG but his Punches were far more effective.

                    After 12 Rounds, i had this Fight 114-114. I would be fine with 115-113 either way but i think a DRAW was the fairest Result.

                    Great Fight, hopefully we get the Re-match in May 2018.
                    GGG won clearly bro. GGG has never been in a close fight. It's either a KO or a clear GGG win. There is no such thing as a close GGG fight.

                    But notice the people who say the fight was a clear GGG don't complain about the 115-113 scorecard for GGG. If it was a clear GGG win they should be complaining about that card too. But all they're focusing on is the Byrd card.

                    Coming forward throwing punches (even if most of them are grazing or missing) will always steal rds and look good in the eyes of casuals and fanboys

                    The same people sayin Canelo ran are the same people who've been saying Canelo has slow feet and GGG is the best at cutting off the ring. But he can't cut off the ring against a guy with slow feet? Their logic is all over the place
                    Last edited by Motorcity Cobra; 09-17-2017, 10:13 PM.

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                    • #30
                      Maybe not, but landing more sure as hell does. GGG landed more.

                      Next topic pls.

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