No Idea How Some Folks Score A Fight

[Brz_Pugilist]

Adalaide...is that you??

This fight's a prime example of what's wrong with boxing. Anything close and it was gonna be a draw. Have a rematch with lots of money. How about rewarding the winner for once. Canelo Alvarez didn't do enough to warrant a draw.

[koolkc107]

Exactly why I had Canelo winning.

The cleaner shots were ALL Canelo, especially to the body, can't stress that enough. ggg's only consistent punch throughout the fight was his jab.

I keep seeing people not scoring body punching over and over and over again, Canelo absolutely dominated that category.

On the ropes he was effectively countering and picking off ggg's shots, in the middle of the ring he was constantly winning the exchanges and snapping g's head back.

That basically what I saw.

Yes, Golovkin came forward and yes he landed the jab in spots.

But, Canelo countered...a lot...and with the harder shots.

[koolkc107]

Effective Aggression – Being aggressive gives the impression of dominance, but unless the boxer is landing shots and not constantly getting countered, it’s not exactly “effective.” Judges look for effective aggression, where the aggressor consistently lands his punches and avoids those from his opponent.

Neither guy won this. Canelo was moving and Golovkin wasn't effective.

Ring Generalship – The fighter who controls the action and enforces his will and style.

Golovkin controlled pace and came forward.

Defense – How well is a boxer slipping, parrying, and blocking punches? Good defense is important.

Canelo had Golovkin landing almost 10% less of his powershot. Great job.

Hard and Clean Punches – To the untrained eye, it can appear as if a boxer is landing a lot of shots, when, in fact, most are being blocked or aren’t landing flush. A judge needs to look for hard shots that land clean.

Canelo landed more powershots and his were by far the harder and cleaner shots.

[Combat Talk Radio]

so you basically had a draw because there is no way that canelo won the 4th round.

Precisely this.

[M Bison]

It isn't rocket science, folks.

4 Criteria:

Ring Generalship
Effective Aggression
Defense
Hard Clean Punches

I gave Golovkin Ring Generalship. He dictated the pace and how the fight was fought. But, it is the only one of the 4 criteria he won.

Canelo was not aggressive, seeking to move and counter. But, while Golovkin did cut the ring off beautifully all night, there often was zero payoff when he trapped Canelo on the ropes. I think this was the biggest factor in the fight. Golovkin had mixed results at best when he got Canelo where he wanted him.

When it comes to Defense, it isn't close. Saul constantly thwarted Golovkin when Gennady got close, blocking most of what Golovkin threw, and rolling most of what got thru. By contrast, it seemed that Canelo could flurry and throw in combination whenever he got ready- granted, there were rounds where he did not throw as much as he should have.

Hard Clean Punches was won far and away by Canelo. The fact that Golovkin walked right thru most of them doesn't mean you do not score them. And while Golovkin did land some heavy shots of his own, they were not as clean as Saul's shots nor did they come as often as Canelos. Gennady did display an pretty effective jab at times, but it was also often superfluous as Canelo was moving away too much of the time for it to score as landed.

I had it 7 rounds to 5 for Canelo.

Saul won rounds 1 thru 4, round 6, and the championship rounds 11 and 12.

I had Golovkin taking 5, and rounds 7 thru 10.

3 of the rounds I gave Golovkin (5,7, and 10) were close enough to have been scored the other way.

Only one of the rounds I gave Canelo (4) might have gone for Golovkin.

My guess is in the rematch, Canelo will win a clear and wide decision.

One thing he can do is get in good enough shape to throw more punches more often- which I grant may be much harder than it sounds.

The other thing he can do is look to flurry, then tie up Golovkin more often, keeping things in the middle of the ring more.

P.S.- I can't help thinking that what Jacobs did to Golovkin is looking better all the time.

P.S. II- I know folks are up in arms over Adelaide Byrd's scorecard. 118-110 is absurd. But, that doesn't mean you could not score the fight for Canelo. If she had turned in a card of 115-113 for Saul, we would have the same result. Let's not get so carried away by what is clearly a corrupt or inept judge that we lose sight of the fact that, of the many possible outcomes, a draw was quite within the realm of acceptability.

This is dedicated trolling, this guy actually typed up an essay lmfao!
Get a job. Jesus effing Christ!!

[M Bison]

I hope that is trolling, nobody can be that clueless, surely!!

[koolkc107]

I hope that is trolling, nobody can be that clueless, surely!!

Why are you answering yourself?

And, I have seen the fight twice now.

Both times I just didn't see Golovkin winning.

Big difference between what we have seen out of him this year and what we saw in previous years.

And the biggest reason for that may be he is finally fighting elite or near elite competition.

Jacobs was supposed to have a class jaw.
Canelo was fighting his first fight at 160.

Both men have very valid argument as to why they should have won.

[SilverMiles]

Canelo lost in every creteria: defense, aggression, ring generalship, and landed punches.

8-4 Golovkin.

[Chrismart]

Round 4 for Canelo ?
That was the round that started to turn things in favour of GGG.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Hard to give canelo 6 rounds. I had it 116-113. It was a close fight but canelo Alvarez didn't do enough for me.

I just seen it like there was many close rds that could have went either way..I can't wait for the rematch, I think it will be better cause of the way this fight played out..