So GGG is a one dimensional brawler/slugger who also has very little power confirmed

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  • Mr Objecitivity
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    #1

    So GGG is a one dimensional brawler/slugger who also has very little power confirmed

    So according to some posters right now, not only is GGG a one dimensional boxer in terms of boxing abilities / skills (which was already known and accepted by those posters), but GGG is also now a light and weak puncher as well.

    So:

    1) Golovkin lacks punching power

    2) Golovkin is a one dimensional boxer with boxing skills / abilities below c level.

    So here is the million dollar question:

    How an Earth did Golovkin go 12 rounds in an extremely competitive and close fight against the supposed, much more skilled boxer in Canelo Alvarez, whilst fighting to a draw and without getting beaten lopsidedly?

    Surely, if Canelo Alvarez was that much more skilled than Golovkin and Golovkin was such a weak puncher, then Canelo Alvarez should've effortlessly demolished Golovkin inside the distance in an even more convincing and lopsided fashion and have won by a bigger margin, shouldn't he?

    Or is there something else that I'm missing?
  • Shape up
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    #2
    Let's make the list. Post other media scores you know of.

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    Mookie Alexander (Bloody Elbow) --------> 117-111 GGG
    Brian Campbell (CBS) ---------------------> 117-111 GGG
    Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) ----------------> 117-111 GGG
    Harold Lederman (HBO) ------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-112 GGG
    Dan Rafael (ESPN) ------------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Bob Velin (USA Today) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) -----------> 116-112 GGG
    Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ----------> 116-112 GGG
    Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) ----> 116-112 GGG
    Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ----------> 116-112 GGG
    Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-113 GGG
    Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ------------------> 115-112 GGG
    Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
    Phil Murphy (ESPN) -----------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Mike Harris (SI) ---------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ------> 115-113 GGG
    MMA Brazil ---------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) -------------> 115-113 GGG
    Rob Tatum (Combat Press) ----------------> 115-113 GGG
    Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ---------> 115-113 GGG
    Lennox Lewis ------------------------------> Golovkin
    Teddy Atlas --------------------------------> Golovkin
    Enzo Macarenelli ---------------------------> Golovkin
    James Brady (SB Nation) ------------------> Golovkin
    Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News) ----> 114-114 Draw
    Gilbert Manzano (Denver Post) -----------> 114-114 Draw
    Boxing Clever (Seen) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
    Associated Press --------------------------> 114-114 Draw
    Lance Pugmire (LA Times) ----------------> 114-114 Draw
    Chris Mannix (Yahoo) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
    De La Hoya --------------------------------> 115-113 Canelo
    Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) -----------> 116-112 Canelo

    CompuBox ------> GGG landed about 50 more punches in the fight
    CompuBox ------> GGG landed more punches in 10 of the 12 rounds
    CompuBox ------> Canelo landed more power shots in 7 of the 12 rounds

    This (CompuBox) confirms my scorecard of 8-4/9-3 for GGG in the bout.
    [116-112 or 117-111 for GGG]

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    • SugarRayCurtain
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      #3
      A lot of Canelos punches landed on the gloves, were rolled off or flat out missed GGG
      GGG has always had underrated defence and underrated boxing skills in general, hes a good defensive fighter even though hes a pressure fighter.

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      • Mr Objecitivity
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        #4
        Originally posted by Shape up
        Let's make the list. Post other media scores you know of.

        Link to CompuBox (scroll down):
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        Mookie Alexander (Bloody Elbow) --------> 117-111 GGG
        Brian Campbell (CBS) ---------------------> 117-111 GGG
        Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) ----------------> 117-111 GGG
        Harold Lederman (HBO) ------------------> 116-112 GGG
        Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-112 GGG
        Dan Rafael (ESPN) ------------------------> 116-112 GGG
        Bob Velin (USA Today) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
        Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) -----------> 116-112 GGG
        Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ----------> 116-112 GGG
        Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) ----> 116-112 GGG
        Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ----------> 116-112 GGG
        Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-113 GGG
        Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ------------------> 115-112 GGG
        Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ------------------------> 115-113 GGG
        Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
        Phil Murphy (ESPN) -----------------------> 115-113 GGG
        Mike Harris (SI) ---------------------------> 115-113 GGG
        Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ------> 115-113 GGG
        MMA Brazil ---------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
        Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) -------------> 115-113 GGG
        Rob Tatum (Combat Press) ----------------> 115-113 GGG
        Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ---------> 115-113 GGG
        Lennox Lewis ------------------------------> Golovkin
        Teddy Atlas --------------------------------> Golovkin
        Enzo Macarenelli ---------------------------> Golovkin
        James Brady (SB Nation) ------------------> Golovkin
        Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News) ----> 114-114 Draw
        Gilbert Manzano (Denver Post) -----------> 114-114 Draw
        Boxing Clever (Seen) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
        Associated Press --------------------------> 114-114 Draw
        Lance Pugmire (LA Times) ----------------> 114-114 Draw
        Chris Mannix (Yahoo) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
        De La Hoya --------------------------------> 115-113 Canelo
        Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) -----------> 116-112 Canelo

        CompuBox ------> GGG landed about 50 more punches in the fight
        CompuBox ------> GGG landed more punches in 10 of the 12 rounds
        CompuBox ------> Canelo landed more power shots in 7 of the 12 rounds

        This (CompuBox) confirms my scorecard of 8-4/9-3 for GGG in the bout.
        [116-112 or 117-111 for GGG]

        My post was to the GGG critiques. It was made in a sarcastic way.

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        • Mr Objecitivity
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          #5
          Originally posted by SugarRayCurtain
          A lot of Canelos punches landed on the gloves, were rolled off or flat out missed GGG
          GGG has always had underrated defence and underrated boxing skills in general, hes a good defensive fighter even though hes a pressure fighter.
          This post was to GGG critiques.

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          • elfag
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            #6
            GGG has VERY good power.

            He stopped like 20 guys in a row before jacobs. Jacobs had the right style match up against GGG. He had good reach and boxed from the outside. GGG isnt a counter puncher so when jacobs was throwing, it stopped GGG from throwing and then after Jacobs threw his combos then GGG steps forward for his. Kept GGG at bay for a lot of the fight.

            Canelo has excellent defense and prevented GGG from landing clean all night, Slipped a ton of shots and blocked a ton more. He didnt stand there toe to toe in the center until late in the fight when he had no energy. He was moving for a reason in the early rounds.

            Funniest guy to ever comment on GGG's power was Brook with the "GGG never hurt me, he didnt punch that hard", GGG broke his ***ing eye socket, Brooks career will never be the same.

            What good does it do you to say you took all his shots without going down like Margarito vs pac when your face was broken and your career is over after the fight and you still lost the fight...

            How do you beat guys with big power? you beat them with a good defense and not taking their shots in the first place. Thats the smart way to do it.

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            • GBH2
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              Yes, in the delusional minds of some extreme Canelo fans GGG is the worst boxer in the history of boxing. That is why he fought to a draw against boxing God Canelo in a match where 80 to 90% of viewers think GGG won.

              I think these people are off their meds.

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              • TheBigLug
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                #8
                Originally posted by Shape up
                Let's make the list. Post other media scores you know of.

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                Mookie Alexander (Bloody Elbow) --------> 117-111 GGG
                Brian Campbell (CBS) ---------------------> 117-111 GGG
                Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) ----------------> 117-111 GGG
                Harold Lederman (HBO) ------------------> 116-112 GGG
                Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-112 GGG
                Dan Rafael (ESPN) ------------------------> 116-112 GGG
                Bob Velin (USA Today) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
                Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) -----------> 116-112 GGG
                Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ----------> 116-112 GGG
                Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) ----> 116-112 GGG
                Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ----------> 116-112 GGG
                Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-113 GGG
                Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ------------------> 115-112 GGG
                Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ------------------------> 115-113 GGG
                Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
                Phil Murphy (ESPN) -----------------------> 115-113 GGG
                Mike Harris (SI) ---------------------------> 115-113 GGG
                Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ------> 115-113 GGG
                MMA Brazil ---------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
                Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) -------------> 115-113 GGG
                Rob Tatum (Combat Press) ----------------> 115-113 GGG
                Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ---------> 115-113 GGG
                Lennox Lewis ------------------------------> Golovkin
                Teddy Atlas --------------------------------> Golovkin
                Enzo Macarenelli ---------------------------> Golovkin
                James Brady (SB Nation) ------------------> Golovkin
                Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News) ----> 114-114 Draw
                Gilbert Manzano (Denver Post) -----------> 114-114 Draw
                Boxing Clever (Seen) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
                Associated Press --------------------------> 114-114 Draw
                Lance Pugmire (LA Times) ----------------> 114-114 Draw
                Chris Mannix (Yahoo) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
                De La Hoya --------------------------------> 115-113 Canelo
                Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) -----------> 116-112 Canelo

                CompuBox ------> GGG landed about 50 more punches in the fight
                CompuBox ------> GGG landed more punches in 10 of the 12 rounds
                CompuBox ------> Canelo landed more power shots in 7 of the 12 rounds

                This (CompuBox) confirms my scorecard of 8-4/9-3 for GGG in the bout.
                [116-112 or 117-111 for GGG]
                It's pretty damning when 1 of the 2 people that scored it for Canelo is his own promoter.

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                • Madison Boxing
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Shape up
                  Let's make the list. Post other media scores you know of.

                  Link to CompuBox (scroll down):
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                  Mookie Alexander (Bloody Elbow) --------> 117-111 GGG
                  Brian Campbell (CBS) ---------------------> 117-111 GGG
                  Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) ----------------> 117-111 GGG
                  Harold Lederman (HBO) ------------------> 116-112 GGG
                  Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-112 GGG
                  Dan Rafael (ESPN) ------------------------> 116-112 GGG
                  Bob Velin (USA Today) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
                  Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) -----------> 116-112 GGG
                  Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ----------> 116-112 GGG
                  Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) ----> 116-112 GGG
                  Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ----------> 116-112 GGG
                  Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-113 GGG
                  Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ------------------> 115-112 GGG
                  Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ------------------------> 115-113 GGG
                  Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
                  Phil Murphy (ESPN) -----------------------> 115-113 GGG
                  Mike Harris (SI) ---------------------------> 115-113 GGG
                  Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ------> 115-113 GGG
                  MMA Brazil ---------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
                  Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) -------------> 115-113 GGG
                  Rob Tatum (Combat Press) ----------------> 115-113 GGG
                  Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ---------> 115-113 GGG
                  Lennox Lewis ------------------------------> Golovkin
                  Teddy Atlas --------------------------------> Golovkin
                  Enzo Macarenelli ---------------------------> Golovkin
                  James Brady (SB Nation) ------------------> Golovkin
                  Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News) ----> 114-114 Draw
                  Gilbert Manzano (Denver Post) -----------> 114-114 Draw
                  Boxing Clever (Seen) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
                  Associated Press --------------------------> 114-114 Draw
                  Lance Pugmire (LA Times) ----------------> 114-114 Draw
                  Chris Mannix (Yahoo) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
                  De La Hoya --------------------------------> 115-113 Canelo
                  Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) -----------> 116-112 Canelo

                  CompuBox ------> GGG landed about 50 more punches in the fight
                  CompuBox ------> GGG landed more punches in 10 of the 12 rounds
                  CompuBox ------> Canelo landed more power shots in 7 of the 12 rounds

                  This (CompuBox) confirms my scorecard of 8-4/9-3 for GGG in the bout.
                  [116-112 or 117-111 for GGG]
                  'ggg exposed doe'.

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                  • ray moe
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                    #10
                    gg's footwork is sheet, even worse than canelo's. It really stunned me, I didnt expect that.

                    Gg was missing AALLL NIIIGHT LOOONG. I havent watched a figther missing so much since long long ago.

                    If there is anything that this fight has made clear, is that gg hasnt fought elite oposition not even a sinlge time before yesterday. Tomato after tomato... for 35 years.

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