Wladimir Klitschko vs. James Toney, who would win?

[Run]

Chin really doesn't matter.

It's the fact that Toney is going to absorb clean punches from someone 10 inches taller and much bigger naturally.

If Wladimir was a semi-accurate or even accurate puncher, he'd surely struggle with Toney's defense. The fact is, Wladimir is an extremely accurate puncher and he punches with power.

Look at the jab and right hand stats on his fights, it's ridiculous.

Toney is stationary, and will be a short target.



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[GunStar]

This reminds me of Calzaghe/Lacy poll.

[Super_Lightweight]

I think this is the "Hate Toney" thread or something. For One, Ur boy Wlad has a glass jaw like a MF. Ask Cory Sanders, Lamont Brewster, & someone else that I can't remember right now. Toney had a close one with Rahman just the other day after a year layoff due to the steroid thang (& still held his own Out of Shape). He'll Kill Wladimir & get arrested cuz ya'll talkin' junk, Now Can U Dig Dat!!!!!!

You're delusional. First off, just because someone thinks a powerful heavy like Wlad can beat a short former middleweight like Toney, that does not in any way mean they are a 'hater'.

If someone said Wlad would beat a prime Foreman, then you can call them a hater. Until such idiocy occurs, keep a level head.

[chidave]

I'm sorry, but I can't fathom how Toney could win a single round. It won't go six, bet the house on it.

[guru]

He's the only man to hurt Tua, he actually put Tua down, but it didn't count because the punch came at the bell, we all know about Tua's great chin. He knocked Lennox Lewis out with one punch, which Vitali couldn't even put Lewis down with 10 straight punches, Vitali hits harder then his little brother. Do you want me to continue.

rock hits pretty hard, but he's not a huge puncher... the knockdown aginst tua came when tua was coming for a KO(throwing caution to the wind) in the last round...

i can name more instances of rock not having huge power like his fights that went the distance against against obed sullivan(tua KO'd in 1), barrett(wlad KO'd in 5), al cole(sanders KO'd in 1), ruiz(tua in 1), jesse fergueson(bruno KO'd in 1)...

[BK Saddizzle]

That's Sanders and Brewster who are in the top five hardest hitting active heavies, right? There's no "hate", just objective adult discussion.

As for the earlier poster who compared Wlad with Rahman as an aggressor, let's not forget that Wlad is a LOT more intelligent as a boxer than Hasim.

Don't tell me u talkin' ****, Blood. U don't have to be the hardest hitter to flatten Wlad, he'll do it himself with his total lack of stamina. Sander's knocks Wlad down like 5-6 times in 3 rounds & Vitali gets in there a takes out Sanders like a sparring session. Byrd was Wlad's perfect opponent because Byrd couldn't punch holes in paper with a Hole puncher(even if the paper was wet) but believe me, even Roy Jones could knock Wlad out & u know he hasn't knocked out a HW since going to that division. Now Can U Dig Dat, Blood!!!

[GunStar]

I'm sorry, but I can't fathom how Toney could win a single round. It won't go six, bet the house on it.

You gonna bet the house on a guy that is mentally weak with bad stamina & a bad chin. I highly doubt that you will bet the house on Wlad.

[GunStar]

rock hits pretty hard, but he's not a huge puncher... the knockdown aginst tua came when tua was coming for a KO(throwing caution to the wind) in the last round...

i can name more instances of rock not having huge power like his fights that went the distance against against obed sullivan(tua KO'd in 1), barrett(wlad KO'd in 5), al cole(sanders KO'd in 1), ruiz(tua in 1), jesse fergueson(bruno KO'd in 1)...

Lenox & Ike couldn't put Tua down. you forget that Rahman just doesn't show up in some fights, he's been out of shape in alot of those fights. When he fought Toney, he was the best shape in his career, still couldn't even hurt Toney.

He hits harder the Wlad, KO ratio doesn't mean you hit harder. Hagler had a better KO ratio then Hearns, but he didn't hit as hard as Hearns.

Many guys have better KO ratio then Chico, but P4P no one hits harder.

[mECHsLAVE]

You gonna bet the house on a guy that is mentally weak with bad stamina & a bad chin. I highly doubt that you will bet the house on Wlad.

Probably the most gifted offensive fighter the HW division has seen in over a decade, has gotten up from every knockdown he's ever had and has never been counted out, and has had stamina issues in exactly TWO out of 49 professional bouts. For a 240# heavyweight, and the amount of power punches he throws, he has ungodly stamina.

He's learned how to hold and recover and dance away when he gets hit, very much like the 70's Ali. His defense is catching up to his offense, and that's scary. That in combination with his size, power and insane left jab spells trouble for all the HW's out there. That's why nobody is in a rush to fight him. He's got the best HW left jab since Larry Holmes. And he's got one of the best HW left hands I've ever seen, with his jab-hook combo.

[GunStar]

Probably the most gifted offensive fighter the HW division has seen in over a decade, has gotten up from every knockdown he's ever had and has never been counted out, and has had stamina issues in exactly TWO out of 49 professional bouts. For a 240# heavyweight, and the amount of power punches he throws, he has ungodly stamina.

He's learned how to hold and recover and dance away when he gets hit, very much like the 70's Ali. His defense is catching up to his offense, and that's scary. That in combination with his size, power and insane left jab spells trouble for all the HW's out there. That's why nobody is in a rush to fight him. He's got the best HW left jab since Larry Holmes. And he's got one of the best HW left hands I've ever seen, with his jab-hook combo.

I see what your saying, Wlad is the next Ali.